Why Muslims...why so strict??

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elwill said:
According to the Qur’an, the husband is the head of the household and his wife should obey him. Allah does not put the Muslim woman in a position that a non-Muslim becomes her head in her own private life. Allah has spared her to suffer from being under the authority of a non-Muslim husband.
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Sounds like allah is prejudiced and a discriminator.
Allah has spared her to **suffer **from being under the authority of a non-Muslim husband
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Pathetic statement
 
jakasaki said:
Pathetic statement
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But Jaka, don’t you know that a Muslim husband is so much better than a non-Muslim husband? I mean, the non-Muslim husband would, like, seriously tempt his wife to commit sins, because he’s the lord of the house and she has to do whatever he says even if it’s against her consience, but a Muslim husband would, like, totally have the same values as her and so their marriage would be just so perfect and she would happily submit to him as her lord, because you know, Muslim husbands have never ever done anything wrong before. Like murder. Or adultery. They’re immune from sin!
 
Eucharisted said:
But Jaka, don’t you know that a Muslim husband is so much better than a non-Muslim husband? I mean, the non-Muslim husband would, like, seriously tempt his wife to commit sins, because he’s the lord of the house and she has to do whatever he says even if it’s against her consience, but a Muslim husband would, like, totally have the same values as her and so their marriage would be just so perfect and she would happily submit to him as her lord, because you know, Muslim husbands have never ever done anything wrong before. Like murder. Or adultery. They’re immune from sin!
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You’re right Nick ~ what was I thinking…!!! 😛
 
How do they know the Muslim woman would “suffer” if it is not allowed to begin with? When we on this board make statements about the suffering of non-Muslims under Islam, for instance, it is with no small amount of historical record to back us up. Where is the historical record that shows Muslim women suffering in marriage to non-Muslims? As far as I know, this has never been allowed in Islam, so I’m confused as to how this could ever be proven, unless of course you are talking about the converted wives of pagans in the very earliest days of Islam, in which case that has no bearing on how Christian men today might treat Muslim women…

Edit: I still think it’s a bad idea, as we are warned not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers, but not because Muslim women would suffer in such an arrangement. I do believe there is at least one Muslim convert to Christianity here by the screen name of “Algebra” who is still married to his Muslim wife, and she remains Muslim anyway. It is hard for Muslims to believe, but such an arrangement is at least theoretically possible because not all Christians feel it their business to force their religion on others. There are also, of course, examples here of very healthy inter-ecclesiastical marriages here too (Catholic/Orthodox, Catholic/Protestant, etc).
 
What everyone is not writing is that her life could be in danger. She could be a victim of an honor killing if the men in her family get wind of you. Or she could be secluded even more so, or forced to marry a Muslim man real soon if they get wind of you.

They are afraid she will get a clue if she marries a non-Muslim man.
 
You mean she might actually suffer at the hands of other Muslims, Staffsgt?! :eek:

Now why don’t our Islamic defenders here ever mention that… :rolleyes:
 
elwill said:
i think that in your bible , the wife should obey her husband either , can you deny !
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Allah has spared her to suffer from being under the authority of a non-Muslim husband.
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Typical posting elwill.

Tell me where in the **koran **it states that "allah has spared her to suffer from being under the authority of a non-muslim husband"
 
staffsgt7 said:
What everyone is not writing is that her life could be in danger. She could be a victim of an honor killing if the men in her family get wind of you. Or she could be secluded even more so, or forced to marry a Muslim man real soon if they get wind of you.

They are afraid she will get a clue if she marries a non-Muslim man.
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Indeed!

And that is what I was referring to in my post #13 about muslim fathers/brothers and being very very protective of their daughters/sisters.
 
jakasaki said:
Typical posting elwill.

Tell me where in the **koran **it states that "allah has spared her to suffer from being under the authority of a non-muslim husband"
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tell me where did i say that it was mentioned in the quran in the first place ?
 
elwill said:
tell me where did i say that it was mentioned in the quran in the first place ?
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“allah has spared her to suffer from being under the authority of a non-muslim husband”
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So then the statement you made is you opinion and you are now speaking for allah when you said “allah has spared…”
 
jakasaki said:
So then the statement you made is you opinion and you are now speaking for allah when you said “allah has spared…”
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i think that it’s clear that i’m talking about the wisdom of these laws from muslims’s point of view , not more than that
 
spoiltvictorian said:
To give you good advice, we’re going to need to know the details. Is she a 7 out of 10? 9 out of 10? 😉
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7 out of 10:)

but dang, I just cant believe this. Like I was only there to get my money so I can leave and now there she is.

BIG SIGH
 
Eucharisted said:
How many Muslim girls have you met, Ben? You’ve posted about this before.
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uhm…actually this is the first time I encountered something like this before. :confused:

Well to be honest, I don´t even know 100 percent if she is Muslim, I know shes from Morocco and like her best friend is this white German girl.
 
OK now i have read the whole thread,and i was right…well benjamin,you have no chance…the girl may flirt with you if she is a nonreligious muslim,but she will never think about anything serious with you…and if she is religious then she wont even “use” you for fun,she will just ignore you

so move on,there are other girls…or revert to islam:)
 
bosnian_muslim said:
OK now i have read the whole thread,and i was right…well benjamin,you have no chance…**the girl may flirt with you if she is a nonreligious muslim,**but she will never think about anything serious with you…and if she is religious then she wont even “use” you for fun,she will just ignore you

so move on,there are other girls…or revert to islam:)
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lol, you should see how she looks at me. Its like when I walk by, she stares until I look at her and smile at her. And this goes on like everyday, oh and well today, beside her name the boss always makes a mistake because he writes Herr (mister) instead of Frau (Ms.) Usually she corrects it for herself, but today I did it for her. Man, when she saw me she looked at me like I gave her flowers or something. I also had a small talk with her today.

I do have a feeling that she is nonreligious, considering how she dresses:D and the fact how close she is with her white German friend.

It looks like this Bosnian Catholic needs to pull some tricks out of his sleeve;)

Its either tomorrow or never

LET`S DO THIS!!!
 
jakasaki said:
Ben, dear brother in Christ,

I’m going to post my 2 cents worth.

You state this woman is of Moraccan family.

Here is my 2 cents of advice.

Let her be! ~ move on ~

Moraccan fathers and brothers are very, VERY protective of their daughters/sisters.

Ben, there are plenty of fish in the ocean!
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But why God put me in this situation Pam?? I was ready to leave Germany and find myself a Catholic Dominican back in the states:p

Oh well, we´ll see how tomorrow it´ll will work out. I Need to put this agony to an end.
 
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