Why remove the Prayer to St Michael?

[jmj603]

The Leonine Prayers were never in the Ordo Missae. Inter Oecumenini did not say that the prayers were “no longer required,” or that the requirement to say them is abolished, it said that the prayers themselves were suppressed. “X is suppressed” ≠ “Feel free to go ahead and do X.”

Inter Oecumenici included the section about the Leonine Prayers under a heading titled “Ordo Missae”, so the intent is pretty clear that suppression refers to the rule, not to any custom which may be started or revived. If they wanted to, or want to, they can use words like “forbidden”, “strictly forbidden”, or even “disallowed”.

It seems that according to you, anyone who says three Hail Marys, one Hail Holy Queen with collect, the St. Michael Prayer and three "Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, Have Mercy on Us"es is disobedient and condemned, but if you move the St. Michael Prayer to the start, it becomes a legitimate votive prayer after Mass. Frankly, I don’t think you have the mind of the Church.

 

[Flame4]

My Church still says it after the mass.

 

[John_of_Woking]

Obviously nobody brought into St.Leo’s vision and precept.

This mention of the Devil really must stop you know Its embarassing and we want to get on better with the World.They will not take us seriously if we talk about such things:shrug:

No not really. I don’t know why anyone would want it removed? But who am I?

 

[mangy_dog]

“Suppressed” from the Order of Mass does not mean forbidden as a devotion after said Mass, because orthodox devotions after said Mass are always permitted.

In some places, for example, they have the Rosary.

Interesting you should say that,…we say the Rosary before mass and the St. Michael Archangel prayer after mass.

 

[sojo]

I am not opposed to one or two prayers before and/or after Mass that are the tradition of any one parish. A few seconds/minutes - no big deal.

But for those of us in parishes with no Eucharistic adoration available - church is opened minutes before Mass and then locked up, those precious moments of silence before Our Lord are so dear… it is hard to endure when little pockets are chanting loud prayers or going through certain rituals.

But better some group be doing this if it keeps the rest of the chattering happy-makers at bay.

 

[Pregustator]

I am not opposed to one or two prayers before and/or after Mass that are the tradition of any one parish. A few seconds/minutes - no big deal.

But for those of us in parishes with no Eucharistic adoration available - church is opened minutes before Mass and then locked up, those precious moments of silence before Our Lord are so dear… it is hard to endure when little pockets are chanting loud prayers or going through certain rituals.

But better some group be doing this if it keeps the rest of the chattering happy-makers at bay.

I think sometimes we’re perhaps too harsh in our view of the “chattering happy-makers”. I wonder what they say to each other about the grimacing old hypocrites.

Probably nothing.

 

[DebChris]

I don’t believe anyone has brought this up yet, but it seems to me that the intent of Inter Oecumenici was an incremental step in a transition away from the 1962 Missal to the Mass of Paul VI. Inasmuch as the other changes listed there pointed to full implementation of Sacrosanctum Concilium, abolishing the Leonine Prayers were seen as one of the post-Vatican II reforms of the liturgy. Obviously, many parishes celebrating the Extraordinary Form today take this view if they do recite the Leonine Prayers.

In my parish, we recite a novena to Our Lady of Perpetual Help after the Tuesday night Mass.

In my parish, the novena to Our Lady of Perpetual Help is prayed after both Wednesday evening Masses. Every member who steps forward after the novena is blessed by one of the priests.
Tuesday night is the nine week sequential novena to Saint Anthony. This followed by distribution of bread.
All lectors are required to attend the First Friday Holy Hour which precedes the Friday Obligation (Sunday) Mass.