Do we? I’m not familiar with any that are taken for granted without support from other material. Could you please let us know which ancient writings you’re thinking of.
Sure. I am speaking of those works attributed to Homer. This is not to say they tell a true story, but that no one questions whether current copies represent the original.
What material do we use to conclude that, when I read the Iliad, I am reading the “Iliad” as Homer intended it?
The Bible is no less a reliable source of what the Author (authors) intended to pass down. As to its historic reliability (whether it is historically accurate), I have seen zero evidence from any historian, ever, to refute it’s historic authenticity or reliability.
Also you avoided my question regarding whether the Bible contradicts itself: since the Bible is a collection of historic writings, written and collected by the religious (specifically the Catholic Church as regards the modern Canon), does it not make sense to go by the interpretation/understanding of those who wrote and compiled it? When coming to a conclusion about a passage(s) in the Bible, isn’t it illogical for someone to reject the understanding of the group who wrote/compiled it?
I don’t think that atheists consider the Bible unreliable just because it is the Bible. It is the lack of independent corroboration and supporting evidence that they point to.
Corroboration and supporting evidence from whom, and such as what? What evidence is acceptable? And how is that evidence any better than the historical accounts recorded in the Bible, and the witness of those who lived with and died for the resurrected Lord? (Maybe you didn’t know it, but the collection of writings within the Bible were historical documents before they were “The Bible”.)
Faith is fine as a basis for a belief, but it’s not a firm basis. Faith is not a path to truth. Can you think of any other aspect of your life in which you use faith instead of evidence when it comes to knowing the truth about something important?
Yes, I have faith that my wife will do her best to raise our children. I don’t need to see evidence to know that this is true. I have faith in who she is and in what she believes. I also have faith that when have an idea, that it originated within my mind. I cannot see my idea or my mind, but I know that my idea is mine, all the same, and that is was
I who had it. I have faith that it is wrong to murder my children; I have no evidence for that…but I believe it.
I don’t understand where you’re going with this [evolution and lack of evidence for it]. Atheism is not dependent upon a belief in evolution by natural selection.
I know. Whether evolution happened or not, is not the point. (I happen to believe in evolution of one kind or another, and I happen to believe that evolution of any kind is perfectly compatible with Christianity.)
My point is, many (not all) atheists believe in evolution while decrying Christians for their “faith”. Meanwhile, I believe we have more evidence pointing to a Creator God than we do for evolution…on a scientific basis using observation of the world around us. (
There are many threads that go into depth here, so I will not go further with this part. Suffice it to say that evolution may be “tried and tested”, but there is not a shred of actual evidence that you can actually touch or see…which makes it exactly the same as “faith” for those who believe it.)