Why so many Protestant denominations

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COGHOBDOJ said:
I agree and I have refrained from commenting on his repeated use of the word “chaos.”

I’m from South Louisiana. My whole family, shucks, most of my community is Catholic. I’ve never gotten the, “Return to The Mother Church” talking from anyone.

From my experience, people of that mindset are in the large minority in many Catholic Churches.
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I’m definately a militant Catholic, but I’d be one of those Templars who’d have a meal with a Saracen Knight if all he wanted to do was eat.

What was it that Jesus said?

youtube.com/watch?v=L2nrNOlUiZc

Amen.
 
COGHOBDOJ

If that is what you believe that you are not saved by faith alone and that faith without works is empty then you are more Catholic than what you know.

The 2 nd point I was making is that if you believe that Mary and the Saints are alive with and in Christ in Haven and have no problem with intercessor prayer with others praying for you such as your pastor, friends, and others then you are more Catholic then you think.

What I was rrying to say is that if the Saints and Mary are alive but not dead as the Bible preaches as those that believe in me and do my works shall have eternal life (not dead) than what is wrong with intercessor prayer from you through the Saints to Christ just as your preacher may say a prayer for you. After all you agree they are alive with CHRIST
 
COGHOBDOJ

Now, let me ask you: Did you ask this question for an honest answer? Or did you ask this with a spirit of division? Do you really want to learn about my heart? Or do you want to expose me and prove me wrong?

We are for unity and one church. We that being said, in order to bring you back home in the church one and all must evancelize.

Remember 2008 is the year for Evangelization and every member of the Catholic Church charged to evangelize.
 
c659smith said:
COGHOBDOJ

Now, let me ask you: Did you ask this question for an honest answer? Or did you ask this with a spirit of division? Do you really want to learn about my heart? Or do you want to expose me and prove me wrong?

We are for unity and one church. We that being said, in order to bring you back home in the church one and all must evancelize.

Remember 2008 is the year for Evangelization and every member of the Catholic Church charged to evangelize.
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Then, let me encourage you: Use more honey, less vinegar. 😃
 
c659smith said:
COGHOBDOJ

If that is what you believe that you are not saved by faith alone and that faith without works is empty then you are more Catholic than what you know.

The 2 nd point I was making is that if you believe that Mary and the Saints are alive with and in Christ in Haven and have no problem with intercessor prayer with others praying for you such as your pastor, friends, and others then you are more Catholic then you think.

What I was rrying to say is that if the Saints and Mary are alive but not dead as the Bible preaches as those that believe in me and do my works shall have eternal life (not dead) than what is wrong with intercessor prayer from you through the Saints to Christ just as your preacher may say a prayer for you. After all you agree they are alive with CHRIST
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Either that or our doctrines are not so different after all? 👍
 
c659smith said:
COGHOBDOJThe 2 nd point I was making is that if you believe that Mary and the Saints are alive with and in Christ in Haven and have no problem with intercessor prayer with others praying for you such as your pastor, friends, and others then you are more Catholic then you think.

What I was rrying to say is that if the Saints and Mary are alive but not dead as the Bible preaches as those that believe in me and do my works shall have eternal life (not dead) than what is wrong with intercessor prayer from you through the Saints to Christ just as your preacher may say a prayer for you. After all you agree they are alive with CHRIST
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If the butcher and the milk man were standing in front of you and you needed some milk, why would you ask the butcher for it? 🙂
 
O.S.Luke said:
You know that statement isn’t helpful… nor is it accurate in the case of many Protestant traditions. And when we do remind you that we use wine and bread, your response is then that it’s not licit. Strawman.
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Both assertions are true.
 
2ndGen said:
Jesus said told John to not try to stop people of other churches.
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WOW! This is a very Protestant intepreation of this verse. So as a Catholic you take this verse to mean that on one hand Jesus Selected Peter to head the One True Chruch but on the other hand he was telling people to run off and start rival Churchs???
“We” can’t make up our own doctrines, but “they” are not part of “we”. They are their own church. Frankly, it’s none of “we’s” business what they do. They can do whatever they want to do. That’s between them and God. They’re not Catholics so “we” aren’t entitled to an opinion on what they do.
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It most certainly is our business what “they” do. Did you realize that 2008 has been declared a year of evangleization?
Remember…work out “your own” salvation. Leave theirs to them. When you have no logs in your eye, then you can pick up that stone to cast.
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Uh in case you didnt noitce "they " came here and proclaimed that their denomination was just as valid and had the same fulness of truth as the Churhc did. We are to ignore that t? We are to reject the truth to make nice?
…to guide “us”. Us…Catholics. They are “not” Catholics. They are not stopping you from being a Catholic. So, what does it matter to you? We adhere to Catholicism so our rules only apply to us (not to them).
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Is that all Catholocism is to you? Rules?
How’s about showing a little respect for God and capitolizing the “G” in his name. And their being Protestants don’t make “God” wrong.
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I’ll tell you what’s more sad…someone who doesn’t know enough to show God His proper respect by capitolizing His name.

Hey, do you attend Mass “every” Sunday?

One does not capitalize god when they are referng to a mythical inept god who alegedly sent his son to author confusion. One capitlaizes God when referng to our Loving Father who sent his Son to save us. The son who is one with his Church.

I go 5 days a week. How about you? I cant go Thursdays becuause I vist my remote office that day and my parish has no Saturday morning Mass. I take every opprtunity I can to hold Our Lord and Savior in my hands an follow his command to eat his body(beng a recovering alchoholic I dont partake of the wine). How can one have a more personal reationship with Jesus than that?

Since you seem concerned with my Spirtiual life in addition to Mass I also pray the Hoursand pray the Rosary daily ? How about you?
 
COGHOBDOJ said:
I agree and I have refrained from commenting on his repeated use of the word “chaos.”

I’m from South Louisiana. My whole family, shucks, most of my community is Catholic. I’ve never gotten the, “Return to The Mother Church” talking from anyone.

From my experience, people of that mindset are in the large minority in many Catholic Churches.
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30,000 thosand differrent versions of the truth appears to be chaos to me. Is your denomination in accrodance with the Jehova Wirtnesses? The Mormons? The Sevnth Day Adventinst? They all use the same bible you do but intepret it very different than you do. How can that be? Is not that chaos?
 
COGHOBDOJ said:
I don’t know, and honestly, I really don’t care. I was born in 1972 and I had no control what happened 500 yrs ago. I’m doing the best I can with what I got.

I can try to explain that the differences are minor, that the essentials are the same, but to what end?
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Of course you cant explain it. The very nature of being a Protestant requires one to ignore the history of the Church from the the monent Jesus acscended until the “reformers came along” Your denomination is in no way comprable to what was beleived prior to when these men started creating new religions.
 
2ndGen said:
He doesn’t strike me as someone who goes to Mass regularly.

I should know…I don’t go to Mass regularly myself while I’ve been getting settled down over here.

youtube.com/watch?v=L2nrNOlUiZc
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So not only is our Chruch a Church of “rules” but it is not even necessary to follow the rules? Can you give us a list of other “ruels” its not necessry to keep? It really would be helpful.
 
paidion said:
See, this is the funny thing. It has been my own experience that I’ve seen more unity among the believers (RC, Protestant, non-denominational, etc.) rather than chaos. The things the various groups disagree on (esp. among the non-RC’s) are more about seeing doctrinal matters from a particular viewpoint. It’s rather like the “one body, many parts” idea. Each part has its own perspective, yet it belongs to the whole body - and cannot be complete without the rest of the parts.

Even when we are short-sighted and miss the bigger picture (as we often do), G-d makes up the difference and extends His grace and mercy to us.
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People who reject Gods Church see what they want to see. Will you be attending you local jehova Witnesses service today?-after all we realy are unified in our beliefs.
 
2ndGen said:
Jesus said told John to not try to stop people of other churches.
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Where is this in the Bible? I don’t recall any place where Jesus says this to John about other churches. Could you please give me the book, chapter, and verse for this?
 
COGHOBDOJ said:
I’m here cause I enjoy sharing with believers.

Now, let me ask you: Did you ask this question for an honest answer? Or did you ask this with a spirit of division? Do you really want to learn about my heart? Or do you want to expose me and prove me wrong?
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There are a multitude of forums where one can share their protestant beliefs with protestant beleivers. Why did you feel the need to come here to jusitfy your decision to reject the Church?
Really, what is your true intent for this paragraph.

I’ve never paraded around here claiming my denomination is great. I’m at total peace about my present walk with Christ. I think it would be extremely immature of me to try to justify to you what my walk with Christ is like.
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If its not great why would you belong to it? And if you didnt feel a need to justify it why are you here? Did you come here looking for affirimation of your decision ? Well Gen2 did that-feel better now?
I think you are lumping me in with all those who disagree with you and tell you that you are wrong. I’m not your enemy…😦
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I am not your enemy-I am speaking the truth. if the truth hurts you should examine why.
 
estesbob said:
30,000 thosand differrent versions of the truth appears to be chaos to me. Is your denomination in accrodance with the Jehova Wirtnesses? The Mormons? The Sevnth Day Adventinst? They all use the same bible you do but intepret it very different than you do. How can that be? Is not that chaos?
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First of all, I question what you are calling a denomination and in turn, how you are coming up with “30,000 different versions of the truth”. I was referring to those groups of believers commonly recognized as falling within the realm of Christianity. Many differences between the groups often come down to more of an issue of form vs. content.

Does the fact that not all RCs believe the same thing about what the Church teaches mean that the Church is wrong? (Of course not!) Likewise, the fact that various groups have developed their own theology does not cause other ones to be in error.

Jehovah’s Witnesses & Mormons are NOT even considered to be within the realm of Christianity (even 7th Day Adventism is in serious question). Their doctrines are NOT based on the same Bible, and there is NOT the same beliefs regarding the basic doctrines of Christianity.
 
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