Why Sola Scriptura is wrong?

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I have a tutor who calls himself an Ex Catholic . When I asked him he said what all weak catechized Catholics say when they leave the faith and join some cult ( Protestants).
He asked me that where is Hail Mary prayer in the Bible . When I showed him Luke 1:28,Luke 1:41-42. He rejected it by saying that where is Hail Mary Prayer in full form like the Our Father in Matthew 6:8-10. How can I defend the Hail Mary prayer ? He said that the apostles never prayed to Mary. He said Why Tradition is necessary , when the truth is in Bible?

Can someone give me short point Why Sola Scriptura is wrong? Can there be almost 50 points or more on why it is wrong…
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Peace to all
 
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Jesus Himself gave authority to the apostles to teach, to drive out demons, to forgive, to heal (Matthew 10:1, Matthew 18:18) etc. And we see this authority being passed on again, such as 1 Timothy 1:14 and Acts 6 1-7. Clearly, the early church did not operate solely with Jesus Christ as the one preacher, the one instructor, the one healer etc, but He was (and is) the One Saviour. This authority was passed on to others. This forms the basis of Apostolic Succession (particularly Matthew 18:18 - as Jesus clearly trusted Peter in particular). Obviously, we can never supersede Our Lord & Saviour as the most powerful and influential, but we can help to promulgate our Catholic faith. Such authority clearly requires training and certain ‘character types’ (for want of a better phrase) to become cardinals or Pope in order to clarify any Biblical teachings which the Church militant might have difficulty in understanding. In following sola scriptura, you cut off access to the wonderful offices and roles that Jesus initiated by saying that these roles are unimportant because the Bible is the one source of authority. It is a key component in our faith, but so is the magisterium.

Not sure if this was helpful, and I’m sure many others could do a better job so look around because this is a very commonly discussed topic with lots of different views. 🙂
 
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When I showed him Luke 1:28,Luke 1:41-42. He rejected it by saying that where is Hail Mary Prayer in full form like the Our Father in Matthew 6:8-10.
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Here’s a suggestion. If your tutor is now a Protestant, it’s quite likely that he habitually adds on the doxology at the end of the Lord’s Prayer: “… but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom …” Ask him to recite the Lord’s Prayer and see if he does that. If he does, ask him to show you the biblical text of the prayer (Matt 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4. The doxology isn’t there. How, then, does he justify praying the way he does?

A few minor points to bear in mind:
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and join some cult ( Protestants).
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  • Not all Protestant churches are “cults.”
  • Not all Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura.
  • Among those churches that profess Sola Scriptura, they define it in several different ways.
 
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He rejected it by saying that where is Hail Mary Prayer in full form like the Our Father in Matthew 6:8-10.
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Ask him where the ‘Jesus Prayer’ is. Or where ‘altar calls’ are.
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Can someone give me short point Why Sola Scriptura is wrong?
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If sola scriptura asserts that the sole rule of faith is the Bible, then the Bible must therefore have that very assertion within its pages. (It doesn’t.)

Therefore, it’s a self-refuting proposition.
 
There are actually 5 Solas, but most folks are familiar with Sola Scriptura without even knowing there are 4 more!
  1. Sola scriptura : “Scripture alone”
  2. Sola fide : “faith alone”
  3. Sola gratia : “grace alone”
  4. Solo Christo : “Christ alone”
  5. Soli Deo gloria : “to the glory of God alone”
Then there is TULIP…

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

Anyhow, Protestants have plenty of “doctrine” that needs to be explained and has serious theological problems to the degree that their disagreements are very strong between different denominations.

I’m not so familiar with Mariology as I am in RCIA and new to the Catholic faith, but trust me, every denomination has serious bugs in their doctrine so don’t take it so seriously. If they are honest they would admit everything I just shared.

Hope that helps from another perspective.
 
Well the “Apostles did not need to pray to Mary” ask him how do you know that they didn’t?
Ask him since in the Bible there is an explicit text that states that not everything that happened was written:
John 21:25 Now there are also many other things that Jesus did, which, if each of these were written down, the world itself, I suppose, would not be able to contain the books that would be written.
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As for the “Sola Scriptura” idea there many books written about it. It is something that no Christian ever believe for the first 1600 years of Christianity. You cannot find in the Bible a verse that can be used to prove it.
And further it is illogical because the Bible (Scriptures) was compiled by the Catholic Church, it is Catholic book. The authority the Bible has if any, stands on the authority of the Catholic Church.
Ask your friend “please tell me where in the Bible you can find the index?”
There isn’t one. The Church gave the index. She decided which books would or would not be in the Bible.

Peace!
 
LOL Sola Fide is also wrong.

We base ourselves on two things: the Catholic Tradition and the Sacred Scriptures.

Sola Scriptura is a Protestant Doctrine that says that we should live by the Bible alone, not any other religious books, nor any other man-made doctrines. But I will directly go to my point.

Isn’t Protestants following the teachings of Luther? Are not they following the Five Solas? We know that these five Solas are arranged by Luther with the use of the Bible as the basis, like Catholic Catechisms. And so, the Protestant doesn’t base their faith on the Bible alone. They follow Calvin, Hus, Luther’s, etc. reasoning and belief, they are not following the Scriptures alone.
 
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Ask him to show you where sola scripture is in the bible. Tradition is mentioned…teachings by letter or by word is mentioned. Where does it say ‘sola scripture’? 😉
 
One flaw in the Sola Scriptura mindset is that there are thousands of different versions of the holy bible and virtually none of them are the earliest version.
 
Sola Scriptura is wrong because it’s an absurd and useless doctrine. It simply says that Scripture is the sole source of revelation which may be used as the rule of faith. It gives Scripture, the written word, authority but doesn’t designate an entity or mechanism for discerning which interpretation of Scripture is correct, no voice for proclaiming what Scripture means to say where controversy arises. And the Bible is often vague or even seemingly contradictory on many truths of the faith.

So, for example, going by Scripture alone Sola Scriptura adherents argue or divide with each other over whether or not infant baptism is valid, whether baptism regenerates or justifies us, how man is justified, whether Jesus is really present in the Eucharist, the importance of the Eucharist to begin with, the role of man’s will, assurance of salvation, predestination, Saturday vs Sunday rest and worship, even the deity of Jesus. These are not peripheral issues even while some are more important than others.

And most of these matters weren’t even controversial in the early Church in both the east and west because they simply believed and practiced then, as they do today, what they received from the beginning. The gospel was received and preached before a word of the New Testament was written. And people understood and practiced the faith correctly well before widespread literacy became the norm, or before the printing press even made the Bible potentially widely available.

Either way only when the doctrine of Sola Scriptura removed the authority to understand the faith from the Church and supplanted it with Scripture did widespread confusion and division begin to reign within the Christian world, and spin off new denominations continue to result frequently for this reason. The Reformers wouldn’t recognize much of what is preached and practiced within the walls of many evangelical churches today.

Because with that doctrine the real authority actually becomes not Scripture but the individual reader of Scripture. And even highly credentialed bible scholars, etc, can disagree completely with each other over critical matters of the faith. So it all becomes a matter of private opinion and interpretation and best-guess theology rather than theology based on a continuous historical experience and legacy that dates to the beginnings of the Christian faith.
 
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The answer to the question can come from Catholics living today, but perhaps better still don’t forget it has also been answered by the earliest christians who knew the Apostles and talked about the faith long before the Bible was cemented. CHURCH FATHERS: Home

So if a person is wary of modern day catholicsm they might be more open to the writings of the first christians (in reading what they wrote they might too conclude that what they said and did is what we say and do today in Catholicsm, to my knowledge none of them wrote about the concept of sola scriptura but all believed in one faith practiced through a real physical church and Tradition).
 
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For some reason (unknown to me), the site Inner Sanctum is not giving me the option of quoting Todd’s post.

If you live in the US, your local library should be able to acquire, through an interlibrary loan program, any book you wish to read, for a brief period.

Best wishes to you, and prayers that you will be able to think of the best explanations for your tutor. 😇
 
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and join some cult ( Protestants).
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  • Not all Protestant churches are “cults.”
  • Not all Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura.
  • Among those churches that profess Sola Scriptura, they define it in several different ways.
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Thank you for saying that… especially the Not all Protestant churches are “cults.” comment.
 
Ask your tutor who put together the Bible and what Christians did before it was put together, that is, before the 5th century. Also, if the Bible was never commanded to be written, but was put together for convenience, how is Sola Scriptura defensible?
 
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Can someone give me short point Why Sola Scriptura is wrong?
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Would there be so many Protestant denominations if it was right?

Ask him how he knows he is in the right denomination
 
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On the subject of Sola Scriptura, the thought I’m always driven back to is, how could SS exist before the invention of the printing press? Seems pretty shortsighted of God to launch Christianity some 1500 years before the invention of the printing press, if sola scriptura really is essential to true faith.

If SS is true, then I guess that God was OK with 1500 years of people stuck in the impossible situation of having no access to a personal copy of the scriptures (because they were all hand copied), yet needing to read & interpret them for themselves to attain salvation. SS implies this, and it is an insult to the character of God. He did not time the launch of Christianity incorrectly, and he didn’t write off 1500 years of human beings.
 
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