Why the Catholic Church Is Wise to Ban Condoms

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Why the Catholic Church Is Wise to Ban Condoms

If you’ve watched any of the mainstream news coverage of the Catholic Church in the past months, you’ve heard the charge repeated over and over: By maintaining its ban on condom use, the Catholic Church is contributing to the AIDS epidemic in sub-Saharan Africa. Condoms have been demonstrated to prevent HIV infection 90 percent of the time. The argument is that if the Vatican cared more about people’s lives than a rigid doctrine that most Catholics reject, it would make an exception to allow condom use to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS. Such a move would do more for “life” than would maintaining a position that allows millions to die as a result of unprotected sex.

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Well a good answer to someone who says “Condoms CAN prevent the spread of AIDS” is “Not engaging in risky sexual behaviors DOES prevent AIDS” people just don’t get it. As far as the married couple is concerned, unfortunately they will have to abstain, because condoms are not 100 percent effective. Even if you are not a Catholic, would you risk your spouses life? Condoms do fail.
 
Here’s what the CDC says about condoms. Both statements are from different parts of the same report.

“The surest way to avoid transmission of sexually transmitted diseases is to abstain from sexual intercourse, or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested and you know is uninfected.”

" Latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, are highly effective in preventing transmission of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. In addition, correct and consistent use of latex condoms can reduce the risk of other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including discharge and genital ulcer diseases."

I wonder if driving to church on Sunday risks the life of one’s spouse? Is driving to church 100% safe?

What’s a good answer to someone who says driving to church on Sunday can be safe?

cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/condoms.htm
 
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Ortho:
I wonder if driving to church on Sunday risks the life of one’s spouse? Is driving to church 100% safe?

What’s a good answer to someone who says driving to church on Sunday can be safe?
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Huh? And this argument is pertinent how? :whacky:
 
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jrabs:
Huh? And this argument is pertinent how? :whacky:
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Apparently, he is comparing a car to a condom. Obviously, he is using one of them incorrectly.
 
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Ortho:
I wonder if driving to church on Sunday risks the life of one’s spouse? Is driving to church 100% safe?
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You can drive to Church 100 times and be almost 100% sure not to have an accident.

You can have condom protected sex, with a partner who has HIV, 100 times and be almost 100% sure to become infected with HIV.

You can abstain from sex with a person who has HIV 100 times and be 100% sure not to have contracted HIV from that person from sex.
 
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Ortho:
I wonder if driving to church on Sunday risks the life of one’s spouse? Is driving to church 100% safe?

What’s a good answer to someone who says driving to church on Sunday can be safe?

cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/condoms.htm
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It is 100% Gauranteed that you will not get AIDS by driving to church.
 
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Maranatha:
You can drive to Church 100 times and be almost 100% sure not to have an accident.

You can have condom protected sex, with a partner who has HIV, 100 times and be almost 100% sure to become infected with HIV.

You can abstain from sex with a person who has HIV 100 times and be 100% sure not to have contracted HIV from that person from sex.
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Almost 100%? Is that 100%? I’m shocked that anyone would expose their spouse to life threatening danger. And if it’s raining or snowing Sunday morning? Horors. The probability must go below almost 100%.
 
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Ortho:
Almost 100%? Is that 100%? I’m shocked that anyone would expose their spouse to life threatening danger. And if it’s raining or snowing Sunday morning? Horors. The probability must go below almost 100%.
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What are the moral implications of using condoms and what are the moral implications of going to church?
 
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Ortho:
Almost 100%? Is that 100%? I’m shocked that anyone would expose their spouse to life threatening danger. And if it’s raining or snowing Sunday morning? Horors. The probability must go below almost 100%.
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If it were almost 100% certain that going to Mass would result in death, it would not be a grave sin to miss Mass. The Church is consistent in her teachings.
 
Michael C:
What are the moral implications of using condoms and what are the moral implications of going to church?
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Is morality a variable in probability calculation?
 
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Maranatha:
If it were almost 100% certain that going to Mass would result in death, it would not be a grave sin to miss Mass. The Church is consistent in her teachings.
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Does it provide quantitative cut-off points?
 
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Ortho:
Almost 100%? Is that 100%? I’m shocked that anyone would expose their spouse to life threatening danger. And if it’s raining or snowing Sunday morning? Horors. The probability must go below almost 100%.
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Why do you take nearly every single post and turn it into a joke? AIDS is not funny. Now back on track, Condoms are like putting a band-aid on a deep cut, it may help, but most of the time it doesn’t work. The Church Stand on Condom use should remain in place.
 
Michael C:
It’s the motivation for taking calculated risks.
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Correct, but the fact remains that one is putting a spouse’s life at risk. The risk doesn’t change with the motivation.
 
Mommy of 3:
Why do you take nearly every single post and turn it into a joke? AIDS is not funny. Now back on track, Condoms are like putting a band-aid on a deep cut, it may help, but most of the time it doesn’t work. The Church Stand on Condom use should remain in place.
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The CDC disagrees with you. It says,

" Latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, are highly effective in preventing transmission of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. In addition, correct and consistent use of latex condoms can reduce the risk of other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including discharge and genital ulcer diseases."

Just like cars, when used correctly, are highly effective in safely transporting the faithful to church on Sunday.
 
Did you read the comments? Pretty depressing. The idea that people can’t control their actions is so dehumanising. If only these posters could hear what they sound like. 😦
 
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BlindSheep:
The idea that people can’t control their actions is so dehumanising.
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But we’re just mammals, right? :rolleyes: People, especially those from Third World nations, like those in Africa, certainly can’t control their sexual impulses, nor why should they? Sex is “perfectly natural”. Sorry for the sarcasm…just thought I’d share…something??
 
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