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There are many different crosses, each with a variety of meaning.
The crucifix focuses primarily on what was done on the cross. An empty cross, for Protestants, focuses on the resurrection. I wear St. Brigid’s cross and a Celtic Trinity cross around my neck, along with my St. Brigid’s medallion (she is my patroness). Both hold special meaning that focuses on various parts of the gospel and Christian teachings. There are the crosses with chi ro, the Russian three bar cross, etc. Within the EOC, you will see that people wear different types of crosses and crucifixes…most are typically given as gifts by godparents and relatives and are blessed before wearing or hanging. My point is that all these crosses have equal value and purpose…just different. I appreciate those that use any/all vs those that intentionally try to eliminate certain crosses because they feel there is some wrong association of this or that. But I understand them as I came from an iconoclastic background before conversion. It is sad, but it is interesting at the very least they have some cross. However, there are those that do not even like having a cross whatsoever. This is the cross we have hanging in our home…it actually belongs to my youngest child and was a gift from my godmothers.
viridiangold.com/types-of-crosses.html
crosscrucifix.com/glossaryhome.htm
The crucifix focuses primarily on what was done on the cross. An empty cross, for Protestants, focuses on the resurrection. I wear St. Brigid’s cross and a Celtic Trinity cross around my neck, along with my St. Brigid’s medallion (she is my patroness). Both hold special meaning that focuses on various parts of the gospel and Christian teachings. There are the crosses with chi ro, the Russian three bar cross, etc. Within the EOC, you will see that people wear different types of crosses and crucifixes…most are typically given as gifts by godparents and relatives and are blessed before wearing or hanging. My point is that all these crosses have equal value and purpose…just different. I appreciate those that use any/all vs those that intentionally try to eliminate certain crosses because they feel there is some wrong association of this or that. But I understand them as I came from an iconoclastic background before conversion. It is sad, but it is interesting at the very least they have some cross. However, there are those that do not even like having a cross whatsoever. This is the cross we have hanging in our home…it actually belongs to my youngest child and was a gift from my godmothers.
viridiangold.com/types-of-crosses.html
crosscrucifix.com/glossaryhome.htm
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aidanbradypop
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Being Episcopalian, we actually have both. We have a Crucifix as well as a empty cross. I am more in favor of the Crucifix than an empty cross. Depending on how “Catholic” or how “Protestant” the Episcopalian leans, it will determine how comfortable they are with the Crucifix.
I love a good hamburger as well as a nice slice of pizza. When you put ground beef on a pizza it makes it heavenly lol.
I like the plain cross because it represents the risen Lord as well as the Crucifix because it shows what Christ gave up for us. HIS LIFE and that is something we should all be thankful on the day of thankfulness!
This is what I am most comfortable with.
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DebChris
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Do we really understand what Christ suffered as a man on the cross without the crucifix?As a former Pentecostal I think certain Protestants like to make a point of “correcting” Catholics that they serve a risen Lord…not one who is still on the cross like Catholics use…I think it’s more of a trendy thing to say to Catholics without any real thought behind what they say…I wear a crucifix and was asked by a Protestant friend why I wear a crucifix because Christ is not on the cross…when I explained that the crucifix represents the completion of the whole of Gods redemptive plan of salvation by the ultimate sacrifice of his only begotten son who gave his life for us by dying on a cross so we might be reconciled to God…and that is why I wear a crucifix…well…apparently my friend hadn’t thought about it like that…so he appeared surprised and had no further questions
Can we look at the man on the cross without being appalled by the suffering Christ?
Then look again and embrace the Cross. At least this is what happened to me, and I am a lifelong Catholic. When we acknowledge the passion of the Cross, the resurrection has that much more meaning. Death has been defeated!
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twopekinguys
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The Cross by itself did nothing.
What Christ did on the Cross is everything.
What Christ did on the Cross is everything.
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Kliska
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I’m a protestant that “enjoys” crucifixes, there are some beautiful beautiful pieces. I also enjoy crosses, and have a personal fondness for celtic crosses. I personally feel that this is one of those issues that strains out gnats and swallows camels. I don’t understand some of the vehemence that certain protestants hold against crucifixes.
At leas those like the amish are consistent; no images, no pictures, no faces on dolls, etc…
I think as long as what is being preached from the pulpit is correct, that is more important then what we have hanging on the walls. I also believe each serves their purpose of showing forth different aspects of our faith. I tend toward the general protestant stance of preferring a plain cross in churches, because, as has already been pointed out, if Christ be not raised our faith is in vain.
Also, I understand, just psychologically that there is a greater chance to slip into worshiping an image that has a figure on it than one that does not. I think protestants have committed a slippery slope fallacy if they believe that worshiping an image flows from having the image itself.
At leas those like the amish are consistent; no images, no pictures, no faces on dolls, etc…
I think as long as what is being preached from the pulpit is correct, that is more important then what we have hanging on the walls. I also believe each serves their purpose of showing forth different aspects of our faith. I tend toward the general protestant stance of preferring a plain cross in churches, because, as has already been pointed out, if Christ be not raised our faith is in vain.
Also, I understand, just psychologically that there is a greater chance to slip into worshiping an image that has a figure on it than one that does not. I think protestants have committed a slippery slope fallacy if they believe that worshiping an image flows from having the image itself.
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EvangelCatholic
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The crucifix in a church conveys ‘Catholic’ to me. Behind or above the altar, the connection between the crucifix and Eucharist is universal. That could be why some Protestants who do not believe in the Real Presence, shy away from displaying the Crucifixion.
Calvin, Zwingli & other Reformers cited idolatry [10 Commandments] and iconoclasm destroyed some beautiful religious art. Some Protestants attacked Lutheran churches as well.
Calvin, Zwingli & other Reformers cited idolatry [10 Commandments] and iconoclasm destroyed some beautiful religious art. Some Protestants attacked Lutheran churches as well.
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hn160
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I prefer a crucifix because it reminds me every time that I see one what Christ did for me. The two that I have, one is on the wall in the living room and the other is around my neck.
It was the pietist movement and the Reform influence that removed the crucifix from Lutheran churches in Pennsylvania.
It was the pietist movement and the Reform influence that removed the crucifix from Lutheran churches in Pennsylvania.
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catholic-rcia
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This my favorite
chooseyourcross.com/FotoFlexer_PhotoTree_of_Lifecrucifix.jpg
chooseyourcross.com/FotoFlexer_PhotoTree_of_Lifecrucifix.jpg
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jimkhong
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Generally, the Anglican communion is comfortable with crucifixes. You should see the Church of England - almost all churches have a cricifix with the Anglo-Catholic parishes replete with altar rails and 14 stations of the cross.
Still, one must remember that the Anglican church in USA is officially called the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America. As far as I know it is the only church in the Anglican Communion calling itself Protestant. So, I am not surprised that it would have vestiges of Protestant views on some issues.
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TexanKnight
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I had a Mormon criticize me once for wearing a crucifix. “It is a symbol of death and torture!” I responded that it helps me remember what He went thru for me. The answer was, “If your wife was shot to death, would you wear a pistol around your neck?”
I responded, “If her death saved all mankind, past, present and future, from sin and gave us all eternal life, then, yes…I think I would.”
The Mormon had no response.
I responded, “If her death saved all mankind, past, present and future, from sin and gave us all eternal life, then, yes…I think I would.”
The Mormon had no response.
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aidanbradypop
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My Episcopal parish has altar rails, stations of the cross…etc. The low church Episcopalians would probably have more of an issue with a crucifix.
Protestant Episcopal Church in the USA is no longer in use. Simply The Episcopal Church now.
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JRKH
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jimkhong
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Sorry, I stand corrected on the change of name: I should have said ‘used to’. I would also be incorrect to stereotype all Anglican churches in US as being low, evangelical or liberal wing. The Anglican is such a broad church, but I found it more bewilderingly broad in England. Still, do you feel pressured as an Anglo-Catholic in TEC today? Just asking, no agenda behind it
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aidanbradypop
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As GKC always state…“we are a motley crew” lolSorry, I stand corrected on the change of name: I should have said ‘used to’. I would also be incorrect to stereotype all Anglican churches in US as being low, evangelical or liberal wing. The Anglican is such a broad church, but I found it more bewilderingly broad in England. Still, do you feel pressured as an Anglo-Catholic in TEC today? Just asking, no agenda behind it
I feel blessed to be in The Episcopal Church. Being Anglo-Catholic in the Episcopal Church is actually very easy.
I did a class on the “Catholicness” of the Episcopal Church that is often lost in some areas on the world.
You have extremes in every faith. The Episcopal Church gets slammed a lot because of same sex civil unions but we stand for much more than that.
My quest right now is to get Christ back on the precession cross
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jimkhong
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In my country, unfortunately, the Anglicans do not see themselves so much as the bridge between the Catholics and Protestants. The reason is that they joined a Joint Seminary with the Protestants and they learned something else. A little sad.As GKC always state…“we are a motley crew” lol
I feel blessed to be in The Episcopal Church. Being Anglo-Catholic in the Episcopal Church is actually very easy.
I did a class on the “Catholicness” of the Episcopal Church that is often lost in some areas on the world.
You have extremes in every faith. The Episcopal Church gets slammed a lot because of same sex civil unions but we stand for much more than that.
My quest right now is to get Christ back on the precession cross
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aidanbradypop
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Indeed.
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jimkhong
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Anyway, Aidan. All the prayers in your venture to bring Christ to the Anglican cross. And presumably a whole host of liturgical practices from the treasure trove of the ancient Church as well.
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EvangelCatholic
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Good point. Sometimes I wonder if the contemporary Church is losing some of it’s treasure in order to be relevant. A Catholic family member told me that things like incense are becoming less common and only censing the altar and not during the Gospel procession.
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