Why the Holy Mother?

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I agree with everything the Church teaches ABOUT Mary. I believe she is sinless, immaculatly concieved, the mother of God (jesus), perpetually a virgin etc. etc.

I also see that praying to her is not a sin.

But why pray to her?

If the answer is because she is a mediator, or because she can intercede for us.

Why can’t we just pray to God directly. Even though Mary is the mother of Christ, isnt Jesus the one whom God the Father loves most, and if hes already a mediator. Why Mary?
 
Mary is our sister in Christ; thus, as a community of believers, we pray for one another, and we ask our brothers and sisters to pray for us. So we ask her to pray for us as well, as our sister in Christ. It’s no different from asking your friend to pray for you.
 
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Agnus_Dei:
I agree with everything the Church teaches ABOUT Mary. I believe she is sinless, immaculatly concieved, the mother of God (jesus), perpetually a virgin etc. etc.

I also see that praying to her is not a sin.

But why pray to her?

If the answer is because she is a mediator, or because she can intercede for us.

Why can’t we just pray to God directly. Even though Mary is the mother of Christ, isnt Jesus the one whom God the Father loves most, and if hes already a mediator. Why Mary?
It’s not just Mary, it’s all the Saints; Mary is just the greatest of the Saints, both angelic and human.

We pray to the Saints because we are more than just individuals with a relationship with God, but a community of souls who have been created by God to live together and worship together. This goes all the way back to Adam and Eve, and how Eve was made because it was not good that Adam be alone. God has built it into the very fabric of our existence a communal sense, and community and love for our neighbors is a Virtue, an actual participation in God’s Life. Indeed, God is Trinity, a “community” in a certain sense, even though God is One. Our sharing of ourselves with our brothers and sisters is a reflection of this aspect of God.

So we pray to the Saints for the same reason we talk with eachother, eat with eachother, go to movies and play together, and help one another when things get rough. Praying to, and with, the Saints reminds us that we’re not alone, we’re not merely individuals put on this Earth by God with only ourselves and Him to worry about, but members of something greater that is called humanity, and Creation. Praying to the Saints is simply our way of staying connected with those who’ve gone ahead of us, or in the case of angels its our way of conecting with them in the first place. Mary is especially important because she loved God more deeply than any purely human being ever has, and in turn loves us to a degree that we can only imagine. She gave her son for us, and Christ even acted on her behalf and on her instruction in humility and in honor of her.

The very least we can do is pay her a similar honor and talk with her and let her pray for us. She’s one of our best friends, the best purely human friend we could ever ask for in fact. Imagine this: when Christ was a child and was hungry, who did He ask for dinner? When He was sleepy, who tucked Him into bed and kissed Him goodnight? God Himself treated Mary as a mother and confidant, coming to her and Personally receiving her flesh and blood to make His human body. When you think of it like that, praying to Mary is even less than what God did with her; who are we to refuse even such minor honor to the woman that God chose to be His own mother?

Peace and God bless!
 
how would it be if you came back home for the Easter or Christmas holiday, came in and sat down and talked to your dad, and ignored your mother, brothers and sisters for the whole weekend? We are a family, a community, the Christians on earth, those in purgatory, and the saints in heaven, with Mary as our Mother. We know this because Jesus gave her to us as our Mother just before he died on the Cross. Even our private prayers are part of the prayer of the community, whether we happen to be addressing the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, or whether we happen to be asking Mary, the saints, or our fellow Christians on earth to pray with us and for us.
 
A. Catholics CAN and DO pray to God directly all the time. (Our Father, most of the Mass prayers, etc.)

B. God throughout the bible employs men and matter as instuments of His will. Think of Moses at the Red Sea when God tells him to stretch out his hand and sea will part. Now ask why bother with the stretching of the hand? Can’t God just say it’s done and it’s done? Of course, but God wants us involved. Of course there is potential for abuse which Moses gets into with the water from the rock. But that humans often receive derivative powers and authority from God is screamingly biblical.

Scott
 
James 5:16 - “The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful.” Is there anyone here on earth more righteous than the saints in heaven? When we get the saints to intercede on our behalf, how much more powerful can that get than getting righteous people on earth to pray for us?

Notworthy
 
If you believe all the things ABOUT Mary then you believe that Jesus has given her to all of us as our mother, and all of us to her as her children, and that she loves her children with a perfect love. Why would you not want to talk with your spiritual mother who loves you with a perfect love, and whom God loves and whom God has exaulted above all others for her perfect fidelity? Why would anybody not want to talk with those who really and truly love them?
 
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Agnus_Dei:
I agree with everything the Church teaches ABOUT Mary. I believe she is sinless, immaculatly concieved, the mother of God (jesus), perpetually a virgin etc. etc.

I also see that praying to her is not a sin.

But why pray to her?

If the answer is because she is a mediator, or because she can intercede for us.

Why can’t we just pray to God directly. Even though Mary is the mother of Christ, isnt Jesus the one whom God the Father loves most, and if hes already a mediator. Why Mary?
Our experience in our Communion in Christ which we enjoy with our Blessed Mother and our brothers and sisters the Saints, testifies to an ever-deepening awareness and love of God through our devotion to our Blessed Mother and all in God’s company in Heaven. Far from distracting us from love of the Most Holy Trinity, our unity within the Communion of Saints only fosters greater attentiveness to living faithfully in His Light.
“I reassure anyone who cares: Devotion to Mary brings us closer to Christ and does the job more quickly than ignoring her does,” (Fr. Mateo, Refuting the Attack on Mary, Catholic Answers).
 
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Agnus_Dei:
I agree with everything the Church teaches ABOUT Mary. I believe she is sinless, immaculatly concieved, the mother of God (jesus), perpetually a virgin etc. etc.

I also see that praying to her is not a sin.

But why pray to her?

If the answer is because she is a mediator, or because she can intercede for us.

Why can’t we just pray to God directly. Even though Mary is the mother of Christ, isnt Jesus the one whom God the Father loves most, and if hes already a mediator. Why Mary?
Mary is not a mediator for us, as we believe the Bible says that only Jesus can save us. However, as Mary was the first Christian and the mother of God, and because I believe in the communion of saints, I believe that not even physical death can separate the body of Christ. I believe ALL Saints in Heaven are praying for us on Earth. As members of one body, we do not stop caring about other members of that body just because we are on Earth and they have received the Beatific Vision (Heaven). Jesus performed His first public miracle at the intercession of His mother (wedding at Cana when he turned water into wine for the wedding guests). Don’t discount the prayer of our Mother. We believe she is a creature, and that she is God’s most perfect creation because she bore Him when He became incarnate in her womb. because she kept His will more perfectly than any other creature before her. She is the new Eve and Christ is the new Adam. Go to www.amm.org/chss.htm and pickup the book called “Christ’s Mother and Ours” and you may also want to order the book by Scott Hahn entitled “Hail, Holy Queen”. Oh, and you are definitely encouraged to pray to God directly. However, I am sure that you ask your friends and family to pray for you right? Why not ask other members of the communion of saints who have went on to receive the Beatific Vision in Heaven?

www.scripturecatholic.com

Also… please go to the Mary Foundation and grab the 7 free audio CDs.

God bless.
 
As a non-Catholic, this one always puzzled me.
Even though Catholics say they do not worship Mary, I see with my own eyes that many do. Why kneel down and kiss her statue? This seems so wrong to me. Isn’t this idolotry?
Why did the Pope have a Mary symbol on his casket? This too, seems very strange.

Now brothers and sisters, don’t jump on me for asking these questions, I am asking with respect and honesty.
 
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Agnus_Dei:
I agree with everything the Church teaches ABOUT Mary. I believe she is sinless, immaculatly concieved, the mother of God (jesus), perpetually a virgin etc. etc.

I also see that praying to her is not a sin.

But why pray to her?

If the answer is because she is a mediator, or because she can intercede for us.

Why can’t we just pray to God directly. Even though Mary is the mother of Christ, isnt Jesus the one whom God the Father loves most, and if hes already a mediator. Why Mary?
I have to admit, as a newbie, I am having an emotional block myself on this one. I UNDERSTAND in my head, but I have been taught something so different all my life, and am still being buffeted from others over this very topic, that I have a hard time praying directly to anyone but God. Now, I will say the Rosary, and I say it every day, but I don’t consider that praying to Mary, oddly enough. Because it is so scripture oriented, and the meditations are on Christ, I just don’t have that block with it.

Some day, I may get past it all. Little Steps!
 
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neweyes:
As a non-Catholic, this one always puzzled me.
Even though Catholics say they do not worship Mary, I see with my own eyes that many do. Why kneel down and kiss her statue? This seems so wrong to me. Isn’t this idolotry?
Why did the Pope have a Mary symbol on his casket? This too, seems very strange.

Now brothers and sisters, don’t jump on me for asking these questions, I am asking with respect and honesty.
Idolatry = worshipping something as God that is not. The Church has, in the past, condemned heretics and excommunicated them for offering cakes to the Blessed Virgin. Clearly she knows the difference between idolatry and veneration. All informed Catholics know Mary is not God and is a creature, thus it is not idolatry. Even most protestants I know put out nativity scenes. By the way, you don’t HAVE to kiss a statue of Mary to be a Catholic in good standing.
 
Semper Fi:
All informed Catholics know Mary is not God and is a creature, thus it is not idolatry.
Thanks. But what about the Pope’s casket? Why not a symbol of the cross or Christ/ Why Mary?
Even most protestants I know put out nativity scenes.
Yes but we don’t kiss the donkeys! 😃
 
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neweyes:
As a non-Catholic, this one always puzzled me.
Even though Catholics say they do not worship Mary, I see with my own eyes that many do. Why kneel down and kiss her statue? This seems so wrong to me. Isn’t this idolotry?
You said you are asking with respect and I believe you, but this is disrespect (even though you may not be aware) because you are presuming to know what is in their hearts. People bow before kings and figures of respect and kiss all kinds of people and nobody mistakes this for worship. So if somebody bows before and kisses a Mary statue and knows it’s not worship and the Church teaches that it is not worship, then good faith demands that you accept that answer. Just as if a Protestant kneels with a bible in his hand, I can freely accept his answer that he does not worship mashed pulp and binding glue.
Why did the Pope have a Mary symbol on his casket? This too, seems very strange.
I am not aware of a Marian symbol on his coffin although I grant it is both possible and likely. What I do and most everyone remembers is the cross on it.
 
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neweyes:
Thanks. But what about the Pope’s casket? Why not a symbol of the cross or Christ/ Why Mary?
Mary points to her Son. Are you talking about the late John Paul’s devotion to the Blessed Virgin? If so, he was truly devoted to her because he lost his mother as a child and guided him in his priesthood. The late pope’s coat of arms contained an “M” with a cross. I believe this is what was on his casket, though I could be mistaken. And proper devotion to Mary always leads one to Christ, not the other way around. After all, she said “My soul doth magnify the Lord.” 🙂
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neweyes:
Yes but we don’t kiss the donkeys! 😃
Would you kiss photo of your mother if she passed away? I certainly hope you’re not comparing Mary to a donkey??? 🙂
 
Jeanette L:
I have to admit, as a newbie, I am having an emotional block myself on this one. I UNDERSTAND in my head, but I have been taught something so different all my life, and am still being buffeted from others over this very topic, that I have a hard time praying directly to anyone but God. Now, I will say the Rosary, and I say it every day, but I don’t consider that praying to Mary, oddly enough. Because it is so scripture oriented, and the meditations are on Christ, I just don’t have that block with it.

Some day, I may get past it all. Little Steps!
Jeanette, you already got it! We ask the saints to pray for us… we don’t ask them to do something of their own will.
 
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neweyes:
As a non-Catholic, this one always puzzled me.
Even though Catholics say they do not worship Mary, I see with my own eyes that many do.
In Scripture, we read an account in Numbers 21. God orders a bronzed serpent to be erected in the desert so that whoever would stand before it and look upon it would be healed from snake bites.

Can you imagine what this looked like? People, especially pagans, who saw this with their “own eyes” must have been pretty confused. Here are the Israelites, telling them not to make idols of worship and here are these same Israelites erecting a bronzed serpent and expecting to look at it and be healed! What hypocricy! I’m sure to any onlooking pagans or any pagans who heard about this certainly looked like worship to their own eyes. That’s almost exactly what their worship looked like—standing before an image and expecting healing.

But, we know that wasn’t at all what the Israelites were doing. Looks can be deceiving. You have to understand WHY people are doing what they are doing before you can determine if your perception of their conduct is correct.

You may have observed certain behaviors in Catholics towards the Blessed Mother that to your “own eyes” looks like worship, but it is not.
Why kneel down and kiss her statue? This seems so wrong to me. Isn’t this idolotry?
First you must understand why we kneel at all. We kneel in prayer, in general, because it is a posture that puts our bodies in a place that is different from our regular posture. Kneeling itself isn’t worship.

When Jesus kneeled before the Apostles at the last supper to wash their feet, he was not worshipping them.

When we kneel beside our children’s beds at night to kiss them goodnight or just look at them while they sleep, we are not worshipping them.

When we kneel before a statue of Mary or a saint, that is not worship. We kneel in reverence. We kneel to focus. We kneel to bring ourselves out of our everyday postures and into a physical state which allows our souls to seek quiet and communion. And it should never go without saying that when we pray to and with the saints and angels, we are in fellowship with them. We are in communion with them through Jesus Christ. He is there. Together we worship God alone. The saints are our older brothers and sisters in Christ who teach us and bring us closer to the One we worship as our God.
Why did the Pope have a Mary symbol on his casket? This too, seems very strange.
Have you ever been to a funeral where a table is set up with pictures of the deceased with his or her family?

Or what about putting some symbol of their life in the casket with them? Have you ever seen someone put something in the hand of someone in a casket?

Do you think that person worshipped his family? Do you think that person worshipped the hankerchief or the prayer book that is placed with them inside the casket? OF COURSE NOT!

Pope John Paul II had a deep devotion to the Blessed Mother. He loved her and presumably he wanted us to remember that about him.
Now brothers and sisters, don’t jump on me for asking these questions, I am asking with respect and honesty.
I do hope these questions are posed in the manner in which I recieved them! I hope you are truly looking for the answers. I hope that you truly consider what is being said here.

God alone is the source and summit of the grace which saves us! He alone is to worshipped. Yet, in His infinite love and mercy, he gives us an amazing fellowship with his Mother, all the angels, and the saints and through them we are drawn closer to our One God.
 
Jeanette L:
Now, I will say the Rosary, and I say it every day, but I don’t consider that praying to Mary, oddly enough. Because it is so scripture oriented, and the meditations are on Christ, I just don’t have that block with it.

Some day, I may get past it all. Little Steps!
Was it St. Francis who said that it does not matter how long it takes to get there, but just that you keep walking and getting up when you fall? Baby steps are good!

As a life long Catholic, I was taught the rosary by the most reverent of women–my mother, my grandmother, and my great-grandmother. I remember as a very small child (2 or 3 years at the most) laying in bed with my great-grandmother and listening to her pray the rosary. I have always had the sense, myself, that this awesome prayer was more about talking to Mary about Christ. Maybe it is the feminine in me, but whenever I pray the rosary it feels like picking up the phone and talking with my mother. I am talking to the Blessed Mother, to be sure, but I am talking to her about her Son. My prayerful conversation and communion with her always gives me a deeper love for her Son. And I know that’s just the way she would want it.
 
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neweyes:
Why did the Pope have a Mary symbol on his casket? This too, seems very strange.

Now brothers and sisters, don’t jump on me for asking these questions, I am asking with respect and honesty.
I was just watching the rerun of the Pope’s funeral the other day. His casket had a large cross with an M positioned under the arm of the cross, just as it was on the day of our Lord’s crucifixion, Mary was under the cross. I can’t believe anyone would have a problem with this. If they do, they are just looking for problems, not objectively looking for answers.
 
Okay that pretty much helps so thank everyone! 😃
The only problem I have now is
Why didnt the Old Testament Israelites pray for intercession to Moses, Noah, Abraham Issac, etc. etc. after they died?
And, why is it we can only pray to the canonized?
And why can’t we pray to Moses, Noah Abraham Issac etc. right now too?

God Bless~
 
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