Why the tomb was empty if Jesus was resurrected?

[jeffrey_erwin]

There has been no coherent natural explanation of **how **the body of Jesus disappeared. Now is your opportunity to produce one!

**"While understanding that God is the ultimate cause of …the disappearance of Jesus’ body from the tomb, it is legitimate to consider the various physical mechanisms…

1. The molecules in Jesus’ body broke into …atoms…
2. The atoms in Jesus’ body disintegrated into their protons, neutrons, and electrons…
3. The atoms …converted into energy…
4. The atoms …converted into neutrinos and anti-neutrinos…
5. Jesus’ body was transported …by a wormhole.
6. Jesus’ body disappeared from inside the Shroud by a transition into an alternate dimension.
7. Jesus body disappeared by an unknown mechanism…"**
   *TEST THE SHROUD,*Antonacci,2015, pg.384.

 

[Bookcat]

The story is not original.

Your response there was off topic…you asked a question and an ** answer was given**…and that was dismissed and another topic introduced. That is not how a thread it to proceed.

Furthermore such was mistaken.

It is original (for it is the one that happened…)

And those are a worn out arguments…

Fictional mythological stories are …a just stories…

Among so many differences…in this case it HAPPENED - and beyond what one could imagine…

We answered your question of the thread-so this thread has come really to an end.

I will though in parting point you in parting to some sources for your reading etc:

On your source that you quoted: catholic.com/search/content/The%20Golden%20Bough

A few on the Resurrection:

ignatius.com/Products/JRD-P/did-jesus-really-rise-from-the-dead.aspx

catholic.com/radio/shows/apologetics-for-the-resurrection-encore-8390

catholicworldreport.com/Blog/4664/the_disturbing_fact_of_the_resurrection.aspx

catholic.com/radio/shows/indisputable-evidence-of-the-resurrection-3469

I bid you great joys in your life as I as fare well to this thread…

 

[Bahman]

Your response there was off topic…you asked a question and an ** answer was given**…and that was dismissed and another topic introduced. That is not how a thread it to proceed.

Furthermore such was mistaken.

It is original (for it is the one that happened…)

And those are a worn out arguments…

Fictional mythological stories are …a just stories…

Among so many differences…in this case it HAPPENED - and beyond what one could imagine…

We answered your question of the thread-so this thread has come really to an end.

I will though in parting point you in parting to some sources for your reading etc:

On your source that you quoted: catholic.com/search/content/The%20Golden%20Bough

A few on the Resurrection:

ignatius.com/Products/JRD-P/did-jesus-really-rise-from-the-dead.aspx

catholic.com/radio/shows/apologetics-for-the-resurrection-encore-8390

catholicworldreport.com/Blog/4664/the_disturbing_fact_of_the_resurrection.aspx

catholic.com/radio/shows/indisputable-evidence-of-the-resurrection-3469

I bid you great joys in your life as I as fare well to this thread…

You are correct. My response was off topic and that is why I opened another thread to discuss the originality of Jesus’s resurrection. You are welcome to bring your opinion there.

 

[tonyrey]

**"While understanding that God is the ultimate cause of …the disappearance of Jesus’ body from the tomb, it is legitimate to consider the various physical mechanisms…

1. The molecules in Jesus’ body broke into …atoms…
2. The atoms in Jesus’ body disintegrated into their protons, neutrons, and electrons…
3. The atoms …converted into energy…
4. The atoms …converted into neutrinos and anti-neutrinos…
5. Jesus’ body was transported …by a wormhole.
6. Jesus’ body disappeared from inside the Shroud by a transition into an alternate dimension.
7. Jesus body disappeared by an unknown mechanism…"**
   *TEST THE SHROUD,*Antonacci,2015, pg.384.

Is there any substantial evidence for wormholes?

 

[mikekle]

Is there any substantial evidence for wormholes?

Uh, yes, I believe there is, but they just do not know how to create one (yet).

Overall, trying to figure out the ‘logistics’ of how Jesus ascended is pointless, its something we could never figure out or even understand.

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

**"While understanding that God is the ultimate cause of …the disappearance of Jesus’ body from the tomb, it is legitimate to consider these seven different possibilities of physical mechanisms that might offer some insight into what actually happened:

1. The molecules in Jesus’ body broke into …atoms…
2. The atoms in Jesus’ body disintegrated into their protons, neutrons, and electrons…
3. The atoms …converted into energy…
4. The atoms …converted into neutrinos and anti-neutrinos…
5. Jesus’ body was transported …by a wormhole.
6. Jesus’ body disappeared from inside the Shroud by a transition into an alternate dimension.
7. Jesus body disappeared by an unknown mechanism…"**
   *TEST THE SHROUD,*Antonacci,2015, pg.384.

**Perhaps a direct answer to the thread question would be appropriate at this point.

Holy Scripture notes many miraculous revivals of dead persons.
The resurrection of Lazarus after his corpse had lain in a tomb for several days is a notable one.
Related to those miracles are the two recorded disappearances of living persons: Enoch and Elijah.

But Jesus’ resurrection was different. His corpse vanished from His tomb; it did not regain life while wrapped in its burial cloth.
Sometime afterwards Jesus appeared in His body outside of that tomb, but without His bloodstains which were left behind on His burial Shroud.
The question as to why His resurrection happened that way is not possible to give a proven answer to. The uniqueness of His resurrection would point to His uniqueness as a person.
Also to be noted is that His corpse’s disappearance left behind a miraculous record of His abuse, scourging, falls, crucifixion, death, lance wounding, burial, and resurrection.
This is a miracle that we still witness today, and, in this age of cynicism, provides proof that He really existed.

Seven different proposed mechanisms for the disappearance of the Holy Corpse have been listed and discussed by Antonacci in his book, TEST THE SHROUD.**
He concludes that only possibilities six and seven are realistic. He favors number six: that Jesus’ corpse moved into an alternate dimension, and he feels that this explanation supports the Historically Consistent Hypothesis for the formation of the miracle of the Shroud of Turin.

 

[Vico]

That is a part of Catholic teaching that a dead person receive a new glorified body after resurrection. Why Jesus’s tomb was empty after his resurrection? Does this fact indicate that the story is false?

Catechism of the Catholic Church

645 By means of touch and the sharing of a meal, the risen Jesus establishes direct contact with his disciples. He invites them in this way to recognize that he is not a ghost and above all to verify that the risen body in which he appears to them is the same body that had been tortured and crucified, for it still bears the traces of his Passion. 509 Yet at the same time this authentic, real body possesses the new properties of a glorious body: not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills; for Christ’s humanity can no longer be confined to earth, and belongs henceforth only to the Father’s divine realm. 510 For this reason too the risen Jesus enjoys the sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes: in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples, precisely to awaken their faith. 511

509 Cf. Lk 24:30,39-40,41-43; Jn 20:20,27; 21:9,13-15.
510 Cf. Mt 28:9, 16-17; Lk 24:15,36; Jn 20:14,17,19,26; 21:4.
511 Cf. Mk 16:12; Jn 20:14-16; 21:4,7.

 

[Crusaderbear]

Yer problem is semantics…if the body was still in the tomb, then Jesus would have been reincarnated ( new body - not an accepted concept ). Sciptures call for rising from the dead, sohe had to use his original body. It’s not that hard to grasp in general terms. The details of why though, are all with God, and probably beyond our interpretation.

The teachings are your original body will be resurrected and renewed, that is what is taught. It why a catholic, if cremated, needs to have the ashes kept in a sealed container and not spread at sea (I looked- thats was my preferred burial method…now I need a mason jar )

 

[phantom87]

That is a part of Catholic teaching that a dead person receive a new glorified body after resurrection. Why Jesus’s tomb was empty after his resurrection? Does this fact indicate that the story is false?

Why do you look for the living among the dead ?? He is risen … I’m confused as to the question how does the fact that his tomb was empty after he was risen reflect a made up story ?

 

[CHRISTINE77]

Jesus’ resurrection happened really quickly. His body didn’t have to decompose and then be put back together as a glorious body. It was just put together as a glorious body right away. I don’t actually understand resurrection at all, it’s a real mystery. Some say it is like Ezekiel’s bones, but I think it is more magical. For example people can be cremated, but on the last day, their bodies will be reformed into glorious bodies according to the scriptures. But don’t ask me how, I have no idea!!

 

[mikekle]

I may be wrong here, but Im pretty sure that last special I watched about testing the shroud of turin, they came to the conclusion a very bright, very intense light had been present at some point, they theorized when Jesus ascended/ disappeared, a very bright light was involved.

I believe they came to this conclusion thru testing and apparently the light was so bright and intense, it would be similar to light from a nuclear blast, in that it would leave a trace of itself behind, that could be found thru scientific testing, but they did not speculate about what the source of this light could have been.

 

[Viki63]

Mother Angelica recently said that our deceased bodies might be sort of dipped into something that would confer eternal life on them.Like covering paper documents with sheet protectors,

I kind of think our spirits/souls will be incarnated into different modes of being, like transferring a movie from a VCR tape to a DVD – a different medium.
"We will all be changed, in the twinkling of an eye . . "

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[GEddie]

Mother Angelica recently said that our deceased bodies might be sort of dipped into something that would confer eternal life on them.Like covering paper documents with sheet protectors,

I kind of think our spirits/souls will be incarnated into different modes of being, like transferring a movie from a VCR tape to a DVD – a different medium.
"We will all be changed, in the twinkling of an eye . . "

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In most cases, the dead will not have a “deceased body” to return to. Even Incorruption is not necessarily forever. And even if the deceased body were there, it would by definition, not hold life.

However, it is possible that Heavenly life involves something like bilocation, in which an apparent “alternate embodiment” or form carries the soul, and when rolled in the substance of the New Earth, reinstates the earth-body in a perfected form.

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