Why there is Vigil Mass for holy days of obligation and Sunday?

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Hi all,
I’m sure it’s been discussed before. I wanna know why there is vigil Mass for Holy days of obligation and Sunday also.

Besides that, I notice in Liturgy of The Hours, there is also similar case, where we pray Sunday evening 1 on Saturday evening and the evening before the Feast days.

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I know others will post the answers.

I’m just grateful to Holy Mother Church for approving vigil Masses. I work during the day at a hospital, and I would have to miss almost all the Holy Days of Obligation that are during the week, and many Sunday masses as well.
 
Hi all,
I’m sure it’s been discussed before. I wanna know why there is vigil Mass for Holy days of obligation and Sunday also.

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it is permitted but not mandatory, there is no vigil Mass in our parish for instance on Wed. A parish may offer a Saturday evening Mass in anticipation (NOT vigil) for Sunday but is not obligated to, it is a pastoral matter and a decision of the pastor in order to best meet the needs of the faithful.
 
I go to a Roman Catholic College, and we have a vigil for All Saints day. This is because we have Mass scheduled anyway for Wednesdays, but also because many people would not be able to attend on Thursday. Wednesday is the day that the College decided they would have the least number of classes, so most kids here have Wednesday as their light day or day off. So we are having the Vigil so that more people can go to it.

I love All Saints day so much that I’m walking to another parish outside of campus on Thursday so I can experience it all over again!
 
I’ve always understood (perhaps incorrectly) that vigil Masses were acceptable because the next day (e.g., Sunday) traditionally started at sundown the previous day, so Mass on a Saturday evening was in reality a Mass on Sunday.
 
I’ve always understood (perhaps incorrectly) that vigil Masses were acceptable because the next day (e.g., Sunday) traditionally started at sundown the previous day, so Mass on a Saturday evening was in reality a Mass on Sunday.
This was the logic behind allowing it. However, outside of Easter and Christmas vigils, I don’t think this was generally permitted until the last century. And the flaw in using the traditional Jewish day as the sole criterion (for when Sunday obligation may be fulfilled) is evident by the Sunday night masses.
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vince2paul:
I wanna know why there is vigil Mass for Holy days of obligation and Sunday also.
Pope Paul VI:
The purpose of this concession is in fact to enable the Christians of today to celebrate more easily the day of the resurrection of the Lord.
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it is permitted but not mandatory, there is no vigil Mass in our parish for instance on Wed. A parish may offer a Saturday evening Mass in anticipation (NOT vigil) for Sunday but is not obligated to, it is a pastoral matter and a decision of the pastor in order to best meet the needs of the faithful.
Our pastor is very generous in offering Masses. For example, we have 3 daily Masses every weekday. But we also have 4 priests in residence. There will be a vigil Mass for All Saints and 2 additional Masses on Thursday evening!
 
Our pastor is very generous in offering Masses. For example, we have 3 daily Masses every weekday. But we also have 4 priests in residence. There will be a vigil Mass for All Saints and 2 additional Masses on Thursday evening!
Wow, how many people are in your parish?
 
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Besides that, I notice in Liturgy of The Hours, there is also similar case, where we pray Sunday evening 1 on Saturday evening and the evening before the Feast days>>

Actually, until a reform of rubrics in the 50’s, the liturgical day’s Divine Office started with Vespers on the day before.

Thus Sundays and feasts had 1st Vespers–but they also had 2nd Vespers on the day itself, unlike ordinary days. (Of course, this meant that some days didn’t technically get Vespers at all.)
 
This was the logic behind allowing it. However, outside of Easter and Christmas vigils, I don’t think this was generally permitted until the last century. And the flaw in using the traditional Jewish day as the sole criterion (for when Sunday obligation may be fulfilled) is evident by the Sunday night masses.
Actually not quite true, there is a long history of feast vigils. Look at this excerpt from newadvent:
In the first ages, during the night before every feast, a vigil was kept. In the evening the faithful assembled in the place or church where the feast was to be celebrated and prepared themselves by prayers, readings from Holy Writ (now the Offices of Vespers and Matins), and sometimes also by hearing a sermon. On such occasions, as on fast days in general, Mass also was celebrated in the evening, before the Vespers of the following day. Towards morning the people dispersed to the streets and houses near the church, to wait for the solemn services of the forenoon. This vigil was a regular institution of Christian life and was defended and highly recommended by St. Augustine and St. Jerome (see Pleithner, “Aeltere Geschichte des Breviergebetes”, pp. 223 sq.). The morning intermission gave rise to grave abuses; the people caroused and danced in the streets and halls around the church (Durandus, “Rat. Div. off.”, VI, 7). St. Jerome speaks of these improprieties (Epist. ad Ripuarium).
As the feasts multiplied, the number of vigils was greatly reduced. But the abuses could be stopped only by abolishing the vigils. And where they could not be abrogated at once and entirely they were to begin in the afternoon. A synod held at Rouen in 1231 prohibited all vigils except those before the patronal feast of a church (Hefele, “Conciliengeschichte”, V, 1007). In place of nocturnal observances, the bishops introduced for the laity a fast on the day before the feast, which fast Durandus (loc. cit.) calls “jejunium dispensationis”. Honorius of Auxerre, in 1152 (Gemma Animae, III, 6), and others explain in this way the origin of this fast. It existed, however, long before the abolition of the nocturnal meetings. The fast on Christmas Eve is mentioned by Theophilus of Alexandria (d. 412), that before the Epiphany by St. John Chrysostom (d. 407), that before Pentecost by the Sacramentary of St. Leo I. Pope Nicholas I (d. 867), in his answer to the Bulgarians, speaks of the fast on the eves of Christmas and of the Assumption. The Synod of Erfurt (932) connects a fast with every vigil. The very fact that the people were not permitted to eat or drink before the services of the vigil (Vespers and Matins) were ended, after midnight, explains the excesses of which the councils and writers speak.
 
It is huge. I believe 20,000 members (individuals).
You are soooooo blessed to have that many priests. My parish is a bit larger and we have our pastor and a visiting priest from Nigeria. We borrow a priest for 2 Sunday liturgies in Spanish (unless our pastor has to do it phonetically). I feel like we run our priests to pieces between 2 daily masses Monday-Friday and 5 English masses from Sat. evening through Sunday evening.
 
You are soooooo blessed to have that many priests. My parish is a bit larger and we have our pastor and a visiting priest from Nigeria. We borrow a priest for 2 Sunday liturgies in Spanish (unless our pastor has to do it phonetically). I feel like we run our priests to pieces between 2 daily masses Monday-Friday and 5 English masses from Sat. evening through Sunday evening.
Yes, I know we are blessed. And we pray for them regularly. Overall this is an extremely active parish. 2 others immediately next to us are also large (maybe not as big as we are) and they have fewer priests and fewer Masses. I think because we are so active is why we have so many.
 
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