will you suggest that these verses was abrogated:shrug:
elwill, you think we haven’t read them before by Muslims trying to tell us that ‘Islam is peaceful’?
I posted the information on abrogation - you can reread it. I didn’t make it up, but the Muslims are scrambling to try to tell us differently. Too late, the ‘cat is out of the bag’.
Why don’t a ‘grass roots’ bunch of Muslims go try and tell the ‘real Islam’ according to you that they are wrong about Jihad - fighting for Allah’s Cause or giving of their wealth to the fight against us - and when there is a massive change in the Muslim world maybe, just maybe, people might start believing you.
Until then the behavior of the majority and their violent ones shows us what true Islam is and it is not encapsulated in those surahs you print.
-When persecution of unbelievers stop. Give freedoms; and rights to vote, work, and live in peace to unbelievers in Muslim lands.
-When kidnappings/rape of girls and women stop just because they are unbelievers and available for Muslim men to force convert and marry.
-over 30 battles around this world stop against Hindus, Christians and Jews.
-When anti-semitism stops
-honor a cease fire, or peace treaty, longer than a day or two.
-stop slavery in Islam
-stop human rights abuses in Muslim lands against your own women and girls.
-hold your clerics, and other men in high places, accountable for their words and actions, to stop inciting hatred with their words.
-stop the nonsense that Islam is superior over others - it is not, and to start tolerating others and learn how to live with unbelievers needs to start. Muslims expect it from us - we need to start expecting it from Muslims too.
Basically start behaving better as a whole. This idea that a whole community celebrates when a person dies blowing themselves up while trying to kill unbelievers is the most heinous of beliefs. Telling people they go straight to heaven and get an orgy in heaven is beyond disgusting if they do such a thing.
I don’t see this (peace) happening until the Quran and Sharia laws are replaced or changed.
And don’t make excuses for these points to me - they are happening and for any Muslim to say they are not happening with ‘mainstream’ Muslims then they are just ‘talking to the wall’ as far as I am concerned. In other words - clean up your own backyards and stop telling the rest of us that it is our faults for misunderstanding Islam. It is your own who misunderstand Islam. (personally, I don’t think they misunderstand at all after reading Islam’s texts. The stuff you write is convenient to tell us in order to confuse unbelievers which is exactly what the Quran says to do.)
