Firstly, thank you for your effort at explaining this.
People who are used to discussing things among themselves or among like-minded individuals often fall into the habit of using language which to an outsider (such as myself) does not make sense. I’m sure I do it too among my sailing friends.
Such phrases as ‘the Trinity is an eternal truth’ doesn’t make much more sense to me than ‘the Trinity is true’ unless you are breaking truth into eternal truth and temporary truth.
However, if I interpret your post correctly, God is divided into three persons (people) and one of them, the second one, has a divine nature and a human nature. The other two, presumabley, only have divine natures.
The second person, now existing in what you call a hypostasis form did not exist prior to his birth in this for but only in a spirit form.
I think I have it now. Much obliged for your efforts. By the way, trust you are able to prove all this and are not just making it up.
When discussing the Holy Trinity, because of the sublime mystery that is being expressed in human and limited language, it is VERY IMPORTANT to learn the
jargon as you mentioned with sailing.
Without the use of key words, and understanding exactly how those words should be understood, you will open yourself to misunderstanding or error. Your understanding is still clouded. GOD IS NOT DIVIDED INTO PERSONS OR PEOPLE. Please understand that the use of “person” when describing the Trinity, is not the same as when describing a human person. Also know that the definition of the Holy Trinity was solemnly defined in ancient councils of the Church.
If you wish to understand better the Trinity, you will need to read some books (as FCEGM ALREADY suggested.) It is hardly something that can be adequately understood through an internet message board.
As a start consider the Athanasian Creed below:
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Uncomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty.
So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.
Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.
God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.
