Why was Kennedy the only Catholic president?

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Aboveallbereal said:
Much of the loathing of Michelle Bachmann is anti Catholic
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Michelle Bachmann is not, nor has she ever been Catholic. In fact, she has been connected with anti-Catholic sects.
salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/02/bachmann_end_times_pope

When Bachmann was running for Congress in 2006, her official website bio said she was a member of the Salem Evangelical Lutheran Church of Stillwater, which belongs to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. WELS is one of the very conservative “confessional” Lutheran denominations that maintains that the “antichrist” is the pope. You know, the leader of the Catholic Church? That pope. WELS confirms that they still “identify this ‘Antichrist’ with the Papacy,” in case you’re curious.

Bachmann has denied that her church believes this, but it is definitely one of the fundamental doctrines of her church, according to her Synod’s doctrinal statements. I mean, if Bachmann doesn’t believe it, there are some very nice mainline Lutheran denominations to choose from, though they might be a bit squishy on biblical literalism and hatred of homosexuals.

In 2008, as I’m sure you remember, Michele Bachmann repeatedly called Barack Obama “anti-American” because of his “mentor,” the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. And here, is Bachmann’s good friend and minister Bradlee Dean calling the pope “that devil disguised as a minister of righteousnes”.
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We almost had the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage Catholic Kerry as president a few years ago. Does he count?
 
joshrp said:
Probably because the only thing Catholics talk about are gay marriage and abortion.
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This is true to an extent. What happens is that the media is going to blast any Catholic on these issues, in particular, abortion. The media fears Catholics, because Catholics have a firm and unchanging position on this and other matters.

There is also another matter that is particular to Catholics, that being the perception that the candidate is not really the one in charge, but rather the Pope. A lot of non-Catholic Christians are very anti-Papist, and would not vote for a Catholic unless the the alternative was simply unpalatable.
 
GloriousOrder said:
Are you surprised, friend? The original thirteen colonies were founded by all sorts of Anglicans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Puritans, and other Protestants. Any given Catholic population or Jewish population was ruled over by the Reformers in all walks of life. Part of the reason the Founding Fathers put in a clause forbidding the creation of a State Church was because of all the problems they had with the actually-established Church of England! It harassed them at all turns, but they remained loyal regardless.

Jews and Catholics were the perfidious undermining agents of foreign states, to the early Americans. It set the roots and foundations of the whole attitude of that nation.
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the only Catholic Colony was “MARYland”

in Christ
 
Warrior1979 said:
This is true to an extent. What happens is that the media is going to blast any Catholic on these issues, in particular, abortion. The media fears Catholics, because Catholics have a firm and unchanging position on this and other matters.

There is also another matter that is particular to Catholics, that being the perception that the candidate is not really the one in charge, but rather the Pope. A lot of non-Catholic Christians are very anti-Papist, and would not vote for a Catholic unless the the alternative was simply unpalatable.
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I agree with you 100%. Liberal Catholic politicians are very aware of this, therefore we have the Pelosi’s, Bidens, and Kerry’s watering down the faith with heresy.
 
YourAverageJoe said:
Abraham Lincoln was Catholic President.
Only two Catholic presidents and both were murdered…
Imagine that!!!
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Excuse me, I think A Lincoln was not Catholic.
The story is that his birth mother might have been Catholic.
His step-mother was not as I recall.

I’ve never found a single word stating that Lincoln was Catholic.
As for his mothers, I only recall legends regarding the Catholic faith.

If you can show/prove that Lincoln was Catholic, please do.
 
catharina said:
Excuse me, I think A Lincoln was not Catholic.
The story is that his birth mother might have been Catholic.
His step-mother was not as I recall.

I’ve never found a single word stating that Lincoln was Catholic.
As for his mothers, I only recall legends regarding the Catholic faith.

If you can show/prove that Lincoln was Catholic, please do.
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you are right,
a quick search about Lincolns religion is fuzzy,
one uncredible website had even the vatican and Jesuits plot to kill him…
so I stopped there…:confused:
 
Warrior1979 said:
This is true to an extent. What happens is that the media is going to blast any Catholic on these issues, in particular, abortion. The media fears Catholics, because Catholics have a firm and unchanging position on this and other matters.

There is also another matter that is particular to Catholics, that being the perception that the candidate is not really the one in charge, but rather the Pope. A lot of non-Catholic Christians are very anti-Papist, and would not vote for a Catholic unless the the alternative was simply unpalatable.
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I’m from the South where there are not a lot of Catholics (in my opinion Florida doesn’t really count as part of the South anymore). In my experience Catholic teaching has no relation to what Catholic politicians do. If anyone is afraid that a Catholic president will follow the Pope they haven’t been paying attention to notice that Catholic Congressman almost completely ignore him. I dont doubt that such people as you describe exists. Folks are afraid of lots of boogeyman that dont exist.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Never a Jewish president either. I find this very odd!
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The Catholics haven’t fielded any candidates since then that were worthy of the Presidency. John Kerry was basically Catholic-in-name-only when it comes to abortion. Too many Catholic politicians aren’t worthy of the title Catholic.

But you’ve got Paul Ryan, Chris Christie and some other Catholics coming down the road who might be viable. Until there is a good Catholic candidate we won’t have a Catholic President.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Never a Jewish president either. I find this very odd!
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Why? But what I feel is that he was not a very good example to our Faith. I went to a Catholic School and the school was actually named after him.

I felt he was quite a disgrace to our faith. But thats just my opinion of course.
 
joshrp said:
Probably because the only thing Catholics talk about are gay marriage and abortion. Where are the real Catholic politicans like Kennedy who talked about ALL social issues that effect us, and not just a couple single issues, which although very important, aren’t all there is to organize around?
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:clapping: :amen: :blessyou:
 
joshrp said:
Probably because the only thing Catholics talk about are gay marriage and abortion. Where are the real Catholic politicans like Kennedy who talked about ALL social issues that effect us, and not just a couple single issues, which although very important, aren’t all there is to organize around?
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Agreed 👍.
 
Dakota_Roberts said:
Even if the Catholic candidate focuses on social justice he’ll still lose because being in favor of abortion and gay marriage is practically a requirement for nomination
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Nothing stopping a Republican from focusing on those other social justice issues and less on abortion and gays. Oh nevermind. They couldn’t get their party’s nomination.
 
stevekehl said:
We almost had the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage Catholic Kerry as president a few years ago. Does he count?
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Was he baptized, confirmed? Has he officially joined one of those ecclesial communities? So sure according to the Catholic Church the last I checked the Catholic Church claims and identifies him as a Catholic.
 
Warrior1979 said:
There is also another matter that is particular to Catholics, that being the perception that the candidate is not really the one in charge, but rather the Pope. A lot of non-Catholic Christians are very anti-Papist, and would not vote for a Catholic unless the the alternative was simply unpalatable.
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Right. Many non-Catholic Christians and people of other faiths and beliefs or non belief do not want Catholic faith teaching being dictated to them on every issue. This is afterall a democracy of plural beliefs called the United States of America. Not Vatican City.
 
CMatt25 said:
Nothing stopping a Republican from focusing on those other social justice issues and less on abortion and gays. Oh nevermind. They couldn’t get their party’s nomination.
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These days a Republican has to focus on the three G’s to get their party’s nomination. Gunz, Gays 'n Gawd. Of course, now Republicans have to appeal the mall walkers who call themselves the tea party, who want government out of everything insofar as it doesn’t affect their social security check, their medicare and of course the military. Oddly enough, if you take those three things away, only about ten percent of the government budget is left. My sense is that if we continue down this path long enough, we will eventually have a president who doesn’t have a high school diploma, much less worry about whether he or she is Catholic or not. There seems to be an underlying trend growing where things like intellect and nuance are despised in the political arena, and we will eventually have a president who is an over-sized, empty headed food processor like all the empty husks you bump into at the grocery store.

Your friend,
Sufjon (the political analyst). 🙂
 
Because a faithful to the magisterium, practicing, Catholic who knows his/her Faith would never have a chance of getting elected. Some people would be afraid that they’d have to follow the Pope or something! (I think this happened when Kennedy was running)

Instead, as someone pointed out, we have Kerry, Pelois and Biden. Liberal, pro abortion “catholics”!

Give me a Faithful Catholic any day. I’d love to see a Pro Life Catholic President in the White House. One that would attend Mass every Sunday and not only be intelligent, but also be a social and fiscal conservative.
 
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