Why wasn't the Solemnity of Mary a Holy Day of Obligation in Salt Lake City Without Explanation?

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Some bishops dispense the obligation that day. The Los Angeles Archdiocese.hasn’t had an obligation in many years. Once upon a time I was told it was because of the traffic problems caused by the Rose Parade and game, though why a traffic problem in one city extends to the three counties of the archdiocese isn’t clear to me.

I think if you want an answer you would have to contact your bishop.
 
This actually isn’t my Bishop. It seems parishioners were confused enough that articles have been written. It seems to have occurred abruptly without explanation.
 
The bishop’s office could give an explanation. The rest of us can only speculate.

Though in the category of speculation, Bishop Solis used to be an auxiliary in Los Angeles so maybe he’s just accustomed to it not being a day of obligation.
 
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So this bulletin says “Because the Solemnity is close to the weekend this year it is not a Holy Day of Obligation, but a wonderful way to express your love for the Blessed Mother.” Seems off given the rule is supposed to be it’s cancelled if it’s a Monday or Saturday. Articles indicate calls have been going to voicemail.

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I wonder if these announcements are merely poorly worded? Had it been announced that the bishop had dispensed his subjects from the obligation to assist at Mass, would anyone question his authority to do so?*

Or is there no difference between a dispensation and an abrogation?
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I might question the wisdom and prudence of doing so, but bishops have rarely asked my advice on such matters.
 
The tone of this article was terribly disrespectful to the bishop and the comments were worse. The writer appeared to give the bishop the benefit of the doubt, but it seemed clear to me that he had tried and convicted the bishop in his own mind. Perhaps the bishop gave a dispensation to everyone in the diocese rather than abrogated the obligation?
 
* I might question the wisdom and prudence of doing so, but bishops have rarely asked my advice on such matters.
On second thought, I probably do not question the prudence of doing so, since I expect it is done for the same reason as other translations of holy days or dispensation of their obligation on Saturdays or Mondays – Recognizing that many of the faithful do not keep the obligation at such times, the bishops remove an occasion of sin?

I might still prefer improved catechesis on the matter, especially since the Solemnity of Mary seems recently to be treated as the red-headed step-child of holy days. In my area one is lucky to have a Mass scheduled on the evening of the 31st and the morning of the 1st, while other holy days usually have at least one more Mass scheduled, on the evening of the day itself. I have known more than one person to miss the day because they expected a later-in-the-day opportunity for Mass, only to find there was none. 🤷‍♂️
I suppose priests enjoy taking New Year Day off as much as the next fellow?
 
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* I might question the wisdom and prudence of doing so, but bishops have rarely asked my advice on such matters.
On second thought, I probably do not question the prudence of doing so, since I expect it is done for the same reason as other translations of holy days or dispensation of their obligation on Saturdays or Mondays – Recognizing that many of the faithful do not keep the obligation at such times, the bishops remove an occasion of sin?

I might still prefer improved catechesis on the matter, especially since the Solemnity of Mary seems recently to be treated as the red-headed step-child of holy days. In my area one is lucky to have a Mass scheduled on the evening of the 31st and the morning of the 1st, while other holy days usually have at least one more Mass scheduled, on the evening of the day itself. I have known more than one person to miss the day because they expected a later-in-the-day opportunity for Mass, only to find there was none. 🤷‍♂️
I suppose priests enjoy taking New Year Day off as much as the next fellow?
Is it really right to remove obligation just because a lot of people will skip? It seems to me that people having New Year’s Eve parties and staying up late is why most will miss, but that doesn’t seem like a good enough reason. I know in my parish cluster, there was a 5p on New Year’s Eve, a few masses at the usual Daily Mass time on Jan. 1st, and then an evening Mass that day as well. Seems like one of those timeframes should be doable.
 
I wonder if these announcements are merely poorly worded? Had it been announced that the bishop had dispensed his subjects from the obligation to assist at Mass, would anyone question his authority to do so?*

Or is there no difference between a dispensation and an abrogation?
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I might question the wisdom and prudence of doing so, but bishops have rarely asked my advice on such matters.
Looking into it, a dispensation and abrogation are different. The Bishop does have the power to dispense the entire diocese of their obligation to go. An abrogation is authoratative and removes the obligation in the first place (rather than excusing for not not going). A Bishop can only do this with Vatican approval.
 
The tone of this article was terribly disrespectful to the bishop and the comments were worse. The writer appeared to give the bishop the benefit of the doubt, but it seemed clear to me that he had tried and convicted the bishop in his own mind. Perhaps the bishop gave a dispensation to everyone in the diocese rather than abrogated the obligation?
I agree that the author seems quick to be “right”, but I think he feels the Bishop made a wrong choice. All language seems to be abrogation, no dispensation. The parish bulletin from one of the diocese churches says “Because it falls so close to a weekend, there is no obligation.” That is abrogation. Dispensation is excusing the obligation, but the obligation is there. Other sources seem to also be using the term abrogation. Perhaps, the Bishop used the wrong “legal” avenue to excuse everyone from Mass. Should he have? I don’t know. It seems to just be conforming to secular society to me.
 
Well, according to the Diocese of Salt Lake City’s official calendar advisories for 2018-2019, which can be found at https://dioslc.org/about-us/diocese-news/weekly-bulletins/898-calendar-advisories-for-2018-2019/file
Tuesday, January 1, 2019, Solemnity of Mary, The Holy Mother of God, is not a holyday of obligation in the Diocese of Salt Lake City. In the Diocese of Salt Lake City, the Solemnity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God has been abrogated.
Since the diocese is using the term abrogated in official documents, I would assume that the abrogation was approved by the Vatican.
 
I agree that the author seems quick to be “right”, but I think he feels the Bishop made a wrong choice. All language seems to be abrogation, no dispensation. The parish bulletin from one of the diocese churches says “Because it falls so close to a weekend, there is no obligation.” That is abrogation. Dispensation is excusing the obligation, but the obligation is there. Other sources seem to also be using the term abrogation. Perhaps, the Bishop used the wrong “legal” avenue to excuse everyone from Mass. Should he have? I don’t know. It seems to just be conforming to secular society to me.
I just think that the bishop deserves the benefit of the doubt that he acted with good intentions and with proper authority. The article took a single quote, full of qualifiers, from an anonymous canon lawyer, and proceeded to outline everything that could happen if it were true that he had violated canon law.

The position of the diocese was not given. It appears as if a token attempt was made to contact the diocese, but most offices are rather short-staffed in the week between Christmas and New Year. It is not surprising that calls went straight to voicemail.

It is fine to disagree with the bishop’s decision regarding the obligation and to have a reasonable discussion about the relative merits of that decision. It is not acceptable to write a veiled attack piece, seriously lacking in relevant facts, under the guise of journalism.
 
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Or is there no difference between a dispensation and an abrogation ?
There is a difference for the one who carries out the act (a dispensation is a “singular administrative act”–an act of executive authority–but “abrogaton” is a legislative act that changes the law itself) but not for those who are subject to the authority who acts (either way, the obligation to attend Mass on that day…and observe the other requirements of a day of obligation…is no more).

Dan
 
We have NO evidence the Bishop did this without going through the proper channels.

We should give the Bishop the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he knows what the Canon Law says.
 
Exactly.

Why can’t people just assume good will on the part of the bishop and move on with their day? I’m sure the bishop has better things to do that to field calls from angry internet Catholics who aren’t even in his diocese to justify decisions that he has the authority to make.

We can respectfully disagree, but insinuating that he is doing something illicit is a bit much.
 
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I don’t know about the diocese in Salt Lake, but our diocesan office was closed on Dec 24-26 and Dec 31-Jan 1. And most employees were on vacation the other days and they had only a skeleton crew on Dec 27-29.

So, yeah, the dude’s call went to voicemail. Where’s the crying baby emoji?
 
In my old diocese, the chancery office was always closed completely between Christmas Eve and New Year’s Day.
Where’s the crying baby emoji?
I think it’s next to the tiny violin one. 😁
 
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