Why We NEED Mary

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I’m really trying hard to understand Mary and her siginificance within our church and lives. If Mary was born perfect and immaculately conceived without sin, then couldn’t she have died for us also? :confused:
 
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Suzi:
I’m really trying hard to understand Mary and her siginificance within our church and lives. If Mary was born perfect and immaculately conceived without sin, then couldn’t she have died for us also? :confused:
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No, she is but a creature; God decreed that His own begotten Son can appease for our fall.
 
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Suzi:
I’m really trying hard to understand Mary and her siginificance within our church and lives. If Mary was born perfect and immaculately conceived without sin, then couldn’t she have died for us also? :confused:
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No. Only Jesus could die for our sins because He alone was fully God and fully Man. Mary, even with all her blessings, was still only a creature.
 
Pope JPII has apparently stated that praying the Rosary leads us to the face of Jesus.

This is something that I never really bought into until recently. I was praying the Rosary with more ferver than usual and my mental image of our lord continued to grow eventhough I was praying “Hail Mary full of grace…”.

So, why do we need Mary?

She brings us her son. Boy does she do a great job too!!

As a protestant I always felt so distant from our lord. Now as a recent convert I am really immersed in victory!

Take care,:bowdown2:
 
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Pope JPII has apparently stated that praying the Rosary leads us to the face of Jesus.

This is something that I never really bought into until recently. I was praying the Rosary with more ferver than usual and my mental image of our lord continued to grow eventhough I was praying “Hail Mary full of grace…”.

So, why do we need Mary?

She brings us her son. Boy does she do a great job too!!

As a protestant I always felt so distant from our lord. Now as a recent convert I am really immersed in victory!

Take care,:bowdown2:
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Hey, that makes two of us! 👍 except I was not and never been a Protty. But when I was distant from the Church I too felt no real connection with Our Lord. Praying the Rosary really brought a change in me; it certainly did bring me a closer appreciation and love of Him!
 
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Suzi:
I’m really trying hard to understand Mary and her siginificance within our church and lives. If Mary was born perfect and immaculately conceived without sin, then couldn’t she have died for us also? :confused:
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Mary was predestined to be the PERFECT vessel to carry the Arc of the New Covenant. We honor Mary because of her selfless sacrifice. SHE SAID YES and because of her sacrifice, Jesus was born. God needed a perfect vessel. We needed Mary to bring Jesus into the world. Many of our non-Catholic brothers and sisters would just dismiss Mary and say, “Thanks for the Christ, we don’t need you any more, now GO AWAY.” I’m glad God dosen’t say that us.
 
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joehardee:
Mary cannot save you , only Jesus can when was hanging on the cross and he took a sip of the hissop - he said it was finished and then on the 3rd day he rose again . it was completed on the cross. Read the bible it is all in there.
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😦 Well I hope you have more faith in your own mother. My mother prayed for years for all her 9 children. I always teach all my students about the love of Mary for her children and how Mary will always intercede for us.👍
We ask Mary to intercede. Tell me who does a child run to when they are in need of anything, I would be willing to bet you 9 times out of 10 they will go to the mother before the father.
Because they know the mother will intercede for them to the father. As our mother always does for us.
Pray to Mary she is an awesome Mother.

Great post I loved it and will print it also…
 
I think the ypology of the story of Jesus’ birth follows a common pattern developed in the Old Testament. There are numerous stories that include all or nearly all of these elements: (1) a barren woman, (2) who receives an announcement from a godly messenger that she will bear a child, (3) she does bear a child and the child is a savior, and (4) the mother responds in praise. These women include Sarah, Hannah, Rebekah, Rachel, Manoah’s wife, and Elizabeth.

Mary and Jesus are the climax of this pattern and they exceed all of forerunners. Mary is a virgin with child – a natural impossibility. In the past, barren women had become fertile and produced children in the ordinary way. The message Mary receives is greater than the messages received by the earlier women. She is told of the coming work of her son – which far exceeded anything produced by Israel’s greatest heroes. Further, as we learn later in the gospels, Mary’s child actually does accomplish infinitely more than any of the saviors born to her predecessors. The earlier children, forerunners of Jesus, achieved mainly earthly successes such as localized military, political, or economic victories, whereas Jesus would actually save His people from sin and then was placed at the right hand of God to rule over all nations with an iron rod (which he is currently doing)! Mary’s praise in her Magnificat exceeds those of her forerunners and she will be called blessed by all future generations.

Now, I will take exception to some of the earlier analysis in that I don’t see Mary is the final climax of these narratives. I see the mother church as the climax. The Church is demonstrated as the Heavenly Queen in Revelation 12. I think Mary is rightly understood as a symbol of her.

T. More
 
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I’m really trying hard to understand Mary and her siginificance within our church and lives. If Mary was born perfect and immaculately conceived without sin, then couldn’t she have died for us also? :confused:
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No Mary couldn’t die for us, Christ died for Mary and us all. Mary is all those things only because of the sacrifice of her Son. WITHOUT the fruits of that sacrifice, Mary along with all humanity would be spiritually dead in original and personal sin. WITHOUT Christ’s sacrifice and shed blood there would be NO remission of sin. Hb10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
 
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Now, I will take exception to some of the earlier analysis in that I don’t see Mary is the final climax of these narratives. I see the mother church as the climax. The Church is demonstrated as the Heavenly Queen in Revelation 12. I think Mary is rightly understood as a symbol of her.

T. More

JL: I agree Mary is the model of the Church, what Mary is the Church will be in the end. [RV 12:1 And **there appeared A great wonder
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[SIGN] IN HEAVEN A WOMAN clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and upon her head a crown of twelve stars 2 And she being with child cried travailing in birth and pained to be delivered]

The woman is a person=Mary and a sign, symbolic of the Church Old and New Covenant people of God.

[RV 12:3 And there appeared ANOTHER WONDER in heaven and behold **A GREAT RED DRAGON having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads]

The great dragon is a person=Satan and a sign, symbolic of empires, kingdoms, governments and organizations that oppress the people of God through the ages

[RV 12:5 And SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD who was TO RULE ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron and her child was caught up unto God and to his throne]

The child is a person=Christ, symbolic of the Davidic Kingdom.
 
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