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Duesenberg
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Unfortunately I’m not familiar with either one. I too would appreciate reading about the Early Church Fathers and their celebration of sacrificial liturgies…
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PJM
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The short answer is YES, but it was more complex & profound than even that.
A group of well intended but very misguided clerics desired to make Christ’ One God, One Faith and One True Church more probable since the Protestant Reformation.
In order to began to facilitate just One Christian faith" they began by making Catholic Divine Worship [heretofore totally-GOD CENTERED] into what they HOPED would be more acceptable to the Protestant community.
Removal of the Tabernacle
Removal of the Communion Rail and KNEELING & receiving ONLY on the tongue
The New walk around altars
Priest, now like Protestant preachers facing the congregation
Churches “in the Round”
Removal of many, if not all religious images [statues and even the way of the Cross]
Lay Minister for Reading s and EXTRAORDINARY Ministers of our GOD
Communion FORCED under BOTH species
Communion in the hand.
EACH has played a role in the exodus of Catholics and in the poor catechesis that ensewed
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN EVERY CHURCH; THERE WAS SOME RESISTANCE; BUT THESE WERE MANDATED in the instructions for NEW Churches and Renovations:: “Environment & Art in Catholic Worship” , which by TRADITIONAL/Conservative- REVOLT was revoked and replaced with “Built of Living Stones”; both of which I suspect can still be GOOGLED?
TEACH by OUR personal examples and PRAY VERY Much
God Bless you,
Patrick
A group of well intended but very misguided clerics desired to make Christ’ One God, One Faith and One True Church more probable since the Protestant Reformation.
In order to began to facilitate just One Christian faith" they began by making Catholic Divine Worship [heretofore totally-GOD CENTERED] into what they HOPED would be more acceptable to the Protestant community.
Removal of the Tabernacle
Removal of the Communion Rail and KNEELING & receiving ONLY on the tongue
The New walk around altars
Priest, now like Protestant preachers facing the congregation
Churches “in the Round”
Removal of many, if not all religious images [statues and even the way of the Cross]
Lay Minister for Reading s and EXTRAORDINARY Ministers of our GOD
Communion FORCED under BOTH species
Communion in the hand.
EACH has played a role in the exodus of Catholics and in the poor catechesis that ensewed
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN EVERY CHURCH; THERE WAS SOME RESISTANCE; BUT THESE WERE MANDATED in the instructions for NEW Churches and Renovations:: “Environment & Art in Catholic Worship” , which by TRADITIONAL/Conservative- REVOLT was revoked and replaced with “Built of Living Stones”; both of which I suspect can still be GOOGLED?
TEACH by OUR personal examples and PRAY VERY Much
God Bless you,
Patrick
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edwest211
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“The turning of the priest towards the people has turned the community into a self-enclosed circle. In its outward form, it no longer opens out on what lies ahead and above, but is closed in on itself. The common turning towards the East was not a “celebration towards the wall”; it did not mean that the priest “had his back to the people”: the priest himself was not regarded as so important. For just as the congregation in the synagogue looked together toward Jerusalem, so in the Christian liturgy the congregation looked together “towards the Lord.” As one of the Fathers of Vatican II’s Constitution on the Liturgy, J. A. Jungmann, put it, it was much more a question of priest and people facing in the same direction, knowing that together they were in a procession towards the Lord. They did not close themselves into a circle, they did not gaze at one another, but as the pilgrim People of God they set off for the Oriens, for the Christ who comes to meet us.”
From the book, The Spirit of the Liturgy by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
From the book, The Spirit of the Liturgy by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
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PJM
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Awesome!
Thank you for sharing such profound insights
God Bless you
Patrick
Thank you for sharing such profound insights
God Bless you
Patrick
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