Why were we put here on earth

[Peggy_in_Burien]

Peggy, friendship is the best antidote to loneliness if we are living alone. I lived for a while in two different monasteries. In one I felt isolated because there were cliques but in the other where the monks spoke very little there was a real atmosphere of fraternity. We don’t need to communicate verbally if we are united to others by love and a common purpose. A “retreat” is a misnomer; it is an advance into the most fulfilling form of life!

I agree with you Tonyrey, but one cannot force friendship upon others.

 

[tonyrey]

I agree with you Tonyrey, but one cannot force friendship upon others.

There is no need, Peggy. If we make ourselves lovable we shall be loved. If we make ourselves befriendable we shall be befriended! If others don’t become friends it is a blessing because they would prove to be false friends…

 

[Peggy_in_Burien]

There is no need, Peggy. If we make ourselves lovable we shall be loved. If we make ourselves befriendable we shall be befriended! If others don’t become friends it is a blessing because they would prove to be false friends…

That is true enough. But, it sounds so much easier than it is for some of us.

 

[DasErlibnis]

By the way, you mentioned “living alone without conflict.” What did you mean by that phrase?

After all these years, I think I like the living alone without the conflict part. I have had 30 something years of living with someone with conflict. I’d rather not have that, but will put up with “atoms bumping up against one another” for the right relationship.

Well, a cowboy has a foreman and even Jeremiah Johnson had some companions as I recall. Yep, I understand you. I had my time in the military, too, and then marriage. Community life is never easy.

Hmm. I couldn’t find where it was written “living without conflict”, did I say that??

 

[tonyrey]

That is true enough. But, it sounds so much easier than it is for some of us.

I have a friend who was very lonely for several years and despaired of ever finding a man who would make her happy. Now at the age of seventy she has finally succeeded!

 

[Peggy_in_Burien]

I have a friend who was very lonely for several years and despaired of ever finding a man who would make her happy. Now at the age of seventy she has finally succeeded!

Thanks for cheering me up!

I do know who that special person is; I just have to learn patience for God’s Good Timing.

In the meantime, I have my friends on line, like you to cheer me up!

But this is getting off-topic, isn’t it?

 

[DasErlibnis]

Yeah…I’m not really buying the whole “I am perfectly complete” thing either. Living alone without conflict doesn’t exactly make one whole and complete.

None of us are called to be alone. We are called to communion. Even hermits live in communion with the other monks. But they’re only allowed to go it alone AFTER they’ve perfected the social life with other monks. So, being alone for them is not proof of their being whole or complete. It is only that they are drawn into the stillness of God, depending on their “being” with Him.

Ok. I found it.

I meant there is always strife. Nobody ever sees eye-to-eye 100% together. Hell, sometimes we even disagree with ourselves, even in our present state. Nobody is perfect, but we can be perfect for each other.

As for me. I was glad to go-it-alone for a little while, but I can see that not being social now has reached its limit. It’s turning me inward against myself. So, despite my apathy toward moving, I’m doing it cuz I know it will be good for me.

But I had good reasons for why I needed to be alone at first. I needed healing. But now its time to change perspectives and see things again from a social point of view. It’s different looking at oneself from another’s POV.

 

[tonyrey]

I have a friend who was very lonely for several years and despaired of ever finding a man who would make her happy. Now at the age of seventy she has finally succeeded!

St Anthony rarely lets me down… Let’s see what happens.

In the meantime, I have my friends on line, like you to cheer me up!

But this is getting off-topic, isn’t it?

It’s spot on! You’ve just given one of the reasons…

 

[Eric_Hyom]

This is just a collection of words to challenge the mind to think, if you choose to read further then search for something greater than I have written.

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In search of a Greatest or Ultimate Truth for God****

Here is a child like and yet profound way to test the power of the greatest commandments; when looking for a purpose for the creation of the universe and life.

Did God have a complete plan for the creation of everything, did he think ahead? Were Christ’s life, death and resurrection planned before the creation of the universe began?
To search for a deeper meaning, was Christ freely given the choice to accept his sacrifice before the creation of the universe began?
Would it mean that the Father had a purpose for man so great, that creation could not be achieved in any lesser way?
What purpose can be so great, that it would compel God to create the universe and life, knowing in advance that his son would die?
Would it be to forgive the sins of mankind, or can there be something greater?

Challenge your mind to find a greatest good purpose for creation; by searching for answers to three questions.

What greatest thing can God create?
God could create all the stars and planets of the universe; he then becomes God the builder.
God could create a whole variety of life with almost no intelligence like plants; he now becomes God the gardener’
God could create life with more intelligence but if the knowledge is limited he has now created the animal kingdom. He now becomes God the farmer.
God could create life in his own image, a life that could understand him. Can God create anything greater than life in his own image, does he now become God the Father.
Does the greatest thing that God creates, depend on the relationship that he can have with them?

What greatest purpose can God have to create children in his own image?
Could love be the greatest reason for God to create children?
Could the ultimate God be a God who loves in the greatest way?

God the Father willingly loves all of mankind as he loves HIMSELF.

Can there be any greater reason to create children, even for God, can God love us more than he loves himself??

To find a greatest purpose for all God’s children.
What greatest purpose could God set for humanity? Would it be for everyone to turn to His kind of religion and pray the way that he stipulates, or would it be to banish poverty, gain intellectual superiority, conquer sickness and death, and subdue the universe or is there more?

If the greatest reason God could have to create mankind, is to love us, as he loves himself, then God could create mankind, with the freedom to return God’s love

All of mankind to be created with the freedom to love God the creator unconditionally, are we given the greatest commandment as a guide for this very purpose?

God willingly loves everyone as he loves himself; do we also need this same freedom to love everyone in the same way, so that the truth can be complete for God and mankind.

All of mankind, to be created with the freedom to love their neighbour; as they love themselves unconditionally; are we given the second greatest commandment as a guide?
Is this how God wants his children to be one? He wants us to love each other as we love ourselves.

In a way, God loves us more than he loves himself, because he was willing to do what was good for us but not good for him (send his Son to die). In a sort of contradicting way, God loves himself more than us, because he knows that he is the greatest being in the universe and retains the power of heaven or hell over us. When you ask the question; why did Christ say they are the greatest commandment, can it possibly be because God can do nothing greater?

Could the greatest commandments be a Greatest an Ultimate Truth?

If our greatest purpose for creation is to live by the greatest commandments, then this freedom to love also gives us the choice to do both good and evil. Are the greatest commandments powerful enough, to compel God to create the universe and life, knowing in advance the costs involved?

We can marvel at the great attention to detail that is evident in everything from the tiniest single cell of life and right up to the giant structures of galaxies. Can you find any greater purpose for all this to exist? Challenge the above statements in your mind in an honest way, test them against any religious beliefs, and test them against any form of logic.
This is only a collection of words to challenge the mind to think, I do not pretend to understand the meaning, or to make any claims of truth from these words. They are written without any qualifications, authority, or any conscious revelations from God. If these words should inspire you in some way, then please feel free to pass them on, I do not wish to make any claims for copyright so you are free distribute in any format and do anything with these words as you may desire, you may rewrite this in any way that has greater meaning for you.

Blessings

Eric