Why women cant be Catholic Priests

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Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Yes, but you are taking that out of context. Read more of Galatians 3
23 Now before faith came, we were confined under the law, kept under restraint until faith should be revealed. 24 So that the law was our custodian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a custodian; 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
This has to do with Salvation History, and how with each covenant God increases his people.
  1. First, it was with the Angels & creation.
  2. Next, it was with a married couple: Adam & Eve
  3. It was then with a family: Noah
  4. It was then with a Tribe: Abraham
  5. It was then with a nation: Moses
  6. It was then with a kingdom: David
  7. It was finally with the whole world: Jesus
St. Paul is saying that before Christ came, only Jews were part of the Kingdom, but Christ came to make everyone “sons of God” and to allow all people the opportunity to become offspring of Abraham. He says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek,” because any tribe, nation, ethnicity can now be a offspring of Abraham. Next, “there is neither bond nor free,” here is even including slaves. And finally, “there is neither male nor female” because he’s including everyone “male and female” as sons of God.

Every human is called to be priests, prophets & kings in Jesus Christ; however we are not all called to the Ministerial Priesthood.

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The whole point is that as Catholics, we believe the Church to be founded by Jesus Christ. He gave Peter, the first Pope, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. He conferred the power to loose and bind sins. He promised that the Holy Spirit would guide His Church. So while it may LOOK like “man-made” tradition, it’s guided by God. When you ask whether tradition could be wrong, you’re basically telling God He’s wrong. You can disagree with our beliefs; lots of people over 2000 years have- they’re called Protestants.
 
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The simple fact of the matter is that Adam was told of the tree when and with whom? He seems to be alone. Then Eve knows about it…

I have heard it before, that Adam was to catechize her. It’s not just them that say similar things.
Hearsay. Totally traditional.

Know who else could have told her? God.
No, it was Adam. That in the story with the serpent.

God said to Adam “You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.”
Adam told Eve not to even touch the tree.
When when the devil asked Eve about the tree, he was easily able to trick her because she didn’t speak directly to God and so he was able to convince here that Adam misunderstood.
 
Adam told Eve not to even touch the tree.

When when the devil asked Eve about the tree, he was easily able to trick her because she didn’t speak directly to God and so he was able to convince here that Adam misunderstood.
None of that’s in the bible. God DID speak to Eve directly after she’d already eaten the fruit, so it’s not like they weren’t on speaking terms.
 
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None of that’s in the bible. God DID speak to Eve directly after she’d already eaten the fruit, so it’s not like they weren’t on speaking terms.
The Jews have something called oral tradition and we Catholics have something called Sacred Tradition. The tradition (I’m using lower case, not upper case) is that Adam filled in Eve about the tree.

Yes, God spoke to both of them AFTER they ate the fruit, but the tradition is that Adam was the one who filled in Eve regarding the rules.

NOTE: I’m not implying that Eve didn’t have a relationship with God. I’m simply saying that most theologians agree that Adam was the one who filled in Eve about the tree and that Adam added the part of “don’t even touch it.”
 
Jesus chose a married man to be the first pope. Would that mean that a Pope should be married?

Jesus could have chosen an unmarried man to be the first pope?
 
Jesus chose a married man to be the first pope. Would that mean that a Pope should be married?

Jesus could have chosen an unmarried man to be the first pope?
It is not Church teaching that priests must not be married, it is a discipline that the Church has decided to put in place. It could be changed if the Church thought it prudent to do so. Indeed there are married Catholic priests who have converted from the Anglican and other denominations.

Celibacy is not strictly speaking essential to the ministerial priesthood, whereas being male is. There is a huge difference between changeable Church discipline and unchangeable doctrine.
 
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Speaking as the child of a (former) Episcopal priest, I can tell you that it’s extremely difficult for a man to have both vocations of priest and husband/father. My Dad was awesome- don’t get me wrong- but he (and my entire family, actually) would not advocate for the Catholic Church to allow men to freely marry. Perhaps as the Orthodox Church does it- where men who are married are allowed to become priests, but cannot be ordained as bishop or above; and if a man enters the priesthood as unmarried, he is to stay unmarried.
 
No one can ever explain to me why so much in the Catholic Church always goes to being based on sex. Sex. Sex. Sex. The Church seems completely obsessed with it.
Do you mean ‘sex’ or do you mean ‘gender’? The two are different concepts, in the way you’re writing this, right?
Jesus never said anything about priests needing to be male. He never implied it through any of his actions.
He lived in a time when picking females for his apostles could have had disastrous results, for many.
That holds up only inasmuch as you believe the “Jesus was afraid to break social convention” meme. However, Jesus seriously broke social conventions! (That’s why it’s important to understand Scripture before making claims about Jesus. 😉 )

Do you remember the story of Jesus with the Samarian (aka ‘Syro-Phoenician’) woman at the well? Jesus was way out there:
  • He actually conversed with a Samaritan! That was absolutely verboten in that day.
  • He actually conversed with a woman who was not his wife or mother or sister or daughter! That, too, was a strict social taboo!
So, if you want to make the claim that “Jesus would never have picked a female apostle, but wouldn’t have minded doing so”, then you’re going to have to make a much stronger case, since we know that Jesus didn’t kowtow to social conventions!

(Therefore, then, we conclude that since He chose twelve men, His intent was to choose twelve men. It’s really not about “man-made gender bias”; it’s about following the decision Jesus Himself made. 🤷‍♂️ )
This “policy” is man-made. And yes, I do mean “man” made. No female (name removed by moderator)ut whatsoever.
Right. 'Cause Jesus never interacted with women. 'Cause Jesus never allowed women to give (name removed by moderator)ut and never listened to the things they said, and sometimes changed his actions based on them or let them do things that weren’t ‘politically correct’. (You’ve really got to read the Gospels more closely…) :roll_eyes:
I guess with a position like the Church has regarding the place of women within the hierarchy, there can’t be complaining aboutt a shortage of priests.
psst… mainline Protestant denominations allow female ministers. You realize, don’t you, that they have a vocations crisis too, right? So, “allowing female ministers” doesn’t solve the problem that you suppose it’ll solve. 😉
Sorry for my rant. But not really sorry. I think it is important for Catholics to understand why most find this rule so objectionable.
And it’s important for non-Catholics to realize that the priesthood is a ‘vocation’, not a ‘job’, and therefore, any of the disagreement on this rule that comes from a “equal rights” perspective misses the point of what the priesthood is. 🤷‍♂️
 
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The whole point is that as Catholics, we believe the Church to be founded by Jesus Christ. He gave Peter, the first Pope, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. He conferred the power to loose and bind sins. He promised that the Holy Spirit would guide His Church. So while it may LOOK like “man-made” tradition, it’s guided by God. When you ask whether tradition could be wrong, you’re basically telling God He’s wrong. You can disagree with our beliefs; lots of people over 2000 years have- they’re called Protestants.
Yes you describe the belief of faithful practicing Catholics to a tee.
 
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Thank you. That’s why I do not understand why people want to change Catholic canon law. It’s already been done- go be whatever you think God got wrong. Leave Catholicism and Orthodoxy alone.
 
Thank you. That’s why I do not understand why people want to change Catholic canon law. It’s already been done- go be whatever you think God got wrong. Leave Catholicism and Orthodoxy alone.
To be fair, I’m not sure people who go to be whatever think God got it wrong. And then of course there is the matter of the Catholic Church claiming people as Catholics even if they go be whatever.
 
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Again, this is the viewpoint of Catholics. God established the Church; therefore if you disagree with her and want to change her canons, you are disagreeing with God.

When one is baptized through the Sacrament of the Church, they remain baptized into the Church. Therefore, they are always Catholic, whether they choose to remain faithful to her or not.
 
I guess Christ wasn’t a man since He wasn’t married. smh 🤔🤔🤔
 
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No one can ever explain to me why so much in the Catholic Church always goes to being based on sex. Sex. Sex. Sex. The Church seems completely obsessed with it.
Right.
Cause the Church invented gender insanity, just so we could discuss sex sex sex?
And the Church invented the equivocation of marriage, just so we could discuss sex sex sex?

Did the Church foist these things on the world?

Or do you think Christians should just be quiet about the world around us?

A favorite prank when we were kids was to put a flaming bag of dung on a doorstep and then muse with wonder at how the occupant tries to address the problem.
 
Again, this is the viewpoint of Catholics. God established the Church; therefore if you disagree with her and want to change her canons, you are disagreeing with God.

When one is baptized through the Sacrament of the Church, they remain baptized into the Church. Therefore, they are always Catholic, whether they choose to remain faithful to her or not.
Again, we have no argument that it is the viewpoint of faithful practicing Catholics that God established the Catholic Church as his Church.

I understand too that always Catholic is the teaching of the Catholic Church. Yet you are telling such people to go be whatever. Oh surely, they can go attend services wherever or choose not to attend anywhere at all. And many do both. And many even join others per a particular faith community’s membership process and as such identify as members wherever else. But according to Catholic teaching, they can’t truly go be whatever. Even those who had no say in becoming Catholic and who may not have determined they do not share the faith until they became much older.
 
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Can intersex persons be priests?
There are only two genders, male and female.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
This is just a bit silly.
Of course we are one in Christ, and at the same time, Paul takes note of the uniqueness of human beings.
Right in the same sentence he does this, and you are asserting that somehow the words don’t convey that there are really Jews, and really Greeks, and really men and women.

This conveys a profound confusion about revelation.
Christian revelation and Christian life ask us to be good listeners and observers. How many times does Christ ask us to see and hear?

The denial of the self-evident unique traits that human beings possess is insanity, by definition.
Christian life is not an exhortation to insanity, it is an invitation to become whole, faith and reason well integrated.
 
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It might be silly to some. But the Galatians verse is one that is used by those who promote female clergy. Everyone has their beliefs and interpretations though. That’s why there are different faith communities. And what might be silly to one, may not be to another. Peace to all who walk on this earth in faith or for that matter who just walk.
 
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