Why would any decent parent take their child to a Gay Pride Parade?

[Riley259]

This is not new at Disney World. It has been going on since** June 1990. **People have been discussed with Disney for awhile. It started in Magic Kingdom for one day and has expanded to a week-long event at Pleasure Island, Water Parks of Disney, Hard Rock of Universal and many hotels. They just held it - 1st week in June.

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The nudity is something the gay community uses. When Adam and Eve sinned, they hid from God. They felt shame. Shame was an intrusion. Fr. Thomas Loya(Eastern Rite) discusses that this shame had a good side, a protection from the sins of lust and concupiscence.(CD- The Gift of Sexuality)

Imagine feeling shame when you stand naked taking a shower. Adam felt shame before God.

The gay community wants us to believe that when they are naked they are innocent as if back in the Garden of Eden. We are no longer in the Garden.

The snake has certainly gotten a hold of them though.

 

[zackonattack]

A decent parent would NOT take their chid to a homosexual parade. It’s bad enough that the gay agenda is being shoved down the throats of 1st graders and up by the public school system (and some catholic schools too), but to actually take a kid to view such an obscenity, thereby giving your tacit approval, is beyond the pale. I’m sick and tired of all this gay “pride” nonsense. Let’s face it. Gays are preverts, sick, unhealthy, pathetic and deserve nothing but pity.

 

[Riley259]

A decent parent would NOT take their chid to a homosexual parade. It’s bad enough that the gay agenda is being shoved down the throats of 1st graders and up by the public school system (and some catholic schools too), but to actually take a kid to view such an obscenity, thereby giving your tacit approval, is beyond the pale. I’m sick and tired of all this gay “pride” nonsense. Let’s face it. Gays are preverts, sick, unhealthy, pathetic and deserve nothing but pity.

Although you make valid points, your response is also somewhat uncharitable. People with same-sex attraction deserve our prayers. We must always love the sinner but hate the sin. Let’s also bolster those with same-sex attraction who do actually live chastely - they’re very courageous and are following God’s will. God Bless them for being a true role model for those who have this orientation.

 

[zackonattack]

Although you make valid points, your response is also somewhat uncharitable. People with same-sex attraction deserve our prayers. We must always love the sinner but hate the sin. Let’s also bolster those with same-sex attraction who do actually live chastely - they’re very courageous and are following God’s will. God Bless them for being a true role model for those who have this orientation.

It’s the sinner that goes to hell, not the sin. I’ve always found that bromide (hate the sin but love the sinner) nonsensical. I do come across as rather strong, but that is because I don’t want to even appear to give approval of the homosexual preversion. The sooner those engaging in unnatural sex realize that they are lost and on their way to hell, the better for them. That’s the wonderful think about God–mercy, forgiveness the church, and the sacaments. What I worry about is that these homosexuals are being encouraged to stay that way. They are told it is in the genes and can’t be helped. That of course, is idiotic. God DOES NOT build into someone Mortal Sin. And unrepentant homosexual sex IS Mortal Sin.

Now, you mention some that are homosexual lead chaste lives. Well, the exception does not prove the rule. What do you think, 1 in 1,000,000 that are homosexual are chaste? It’s about the same percentage as heterosexuals that remain chaste before marriage. Just about zero. I’ve been around long enough to see that in practice. It’s a shame, but it is a fact of reality. I’d be cynical but it’s not worth it!!!

 

[AleGenoa]

Why would any decent parent take their child to a Gay Pride Parade?

Were you serious while asking this?
You could also have asked something like: “Why would a good housekeeper do the dishes with a flamethrower?”
“Why would a competent proctologist perform exams on patients while standing on the carpool lane of an highway?”
“Why eat dirt?”

 

[gam197]

originally posted by AleGenoa
Were you serious while asking this?

I was very serious. I have known heterosexual couples who have taken young children. When I ask them about it, it is almost as if they didn’t notice what the parade was about but went for the “children activities” or because it was something to do that was free.

The presence of young children really concerns me and the fact that many heterosexual high school students participate in the parades with their gay peers really concerns me.

 

[AleGenoa]

It’s the sinner that goes to hell, not the sin. I’ve always found that bromide (hate the sin but love the sinner) nonsensical.

Folly! Instead it’s one of the great gifts the Catholic Faith is giving to the world!
It’s exactly due to the fact that it’s the sinner that goes to hell, that you must love him and try to keep him away from that path!!! And one thing to do, which is of paramount importance with homosexuality more than with other sinful attitudes, is to help people understand they must not identify themselves with their instinct! They must know they are not the gayness that is eating away their life!

The sooner those engaging in unnatural sex realize that they are lost and on their way to hell, the better for them.

No one is lost, they can change their behavior, while their instinct may (may!) be impossible to change. There are only a few special occasions where a prudent, knowledgeable Christian can help conversion in another person by telling him “You are going to hell!”, and they all involve the sinner knowing that what he does is indeed evil; with today society, homosexuals are leagues away from this scenario; instead you need to be caring and compassionate first of all, because otherwise they’d never bother trying to see if there is any truth to what you are saying.

They are told it is in the genes and can’t be helped. That of course, is idiotic. God DOES NOT build into someone Mortal Sin. And unrepentant homosexual sex IS Mortal Sin.

I am pretty sure it’s not genetic, but homosexuality comes from external factors anyway, so think of it as some illness: God isn’t preventing this world from getting bad things like illnesses.
Of course one can be conditioned to have bad temper, addiction to drugs, alcohol and so on… this is not an excuse for dwelling into them; some people may need more restraint to resist stronger urges, so don’t judge them. But we all need to contrast a culture where a deeply rooted tendency is seen as automatically good and people think no one can be asked to act against his instincts.

It’s about the same percentage as heterosexuals that remain chaste before marriage. Just about zero. I’ve been around long enough to see that in practice. It’s a shame, but it is a fact of reality.

Don’t be so negative. They are winning when no one thinks things can change.
(Of course I’m not talking theoretically: I’m single and as a Catholic I feel isolated.)

 

[governorperez]

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[gam197]

This is a just parade that will be coming up shortly in Florida but look at the number of people involved.

Still, Longstreth is confident the event will survive the controversy and continue to grow. Last year, 50,000 participants dwarfed the handful of protesters, and he expects this year’s turnout to be even bigger, with lessons learned.

sptimes.com/2007/06/08/Southpinellas/Protests_to_be_limite.shtml

When they tried to have a gay pride parade recently in Russia, the people (Orthodox church) pelted the gays with food,etc. and then the police arrested the gays for “causing a riot”.

 

[dtms]

Whatevergirl’s comments make me think of something. When you mention parents bringing their children, are these adult children who are homosexual, or young kids? The former is questionable, but the latter is disgusting!

Interesting that gays and lesbians talk about being “normal” and that SSM is just “two people who love each other”, and some folks show up to the Gay Pride Parade nekkid? Decent people wear clothes in public. I wonder if more conservative gay people feel embarassed and ashamed of their more flamboyant brethren? Do they resent them and feel they are hurting gays from getting wider public acceptance?

Decent people wear clothes in public? Don’t be silly. I just read in the paper that a policeman arrested a woman for walking down the street topless. She sued for false arrest and won a judgement of 29,000 dollars. Yes, that’s right. It seems that if men can walk down the street without a shirt on and not be arrested, then women are entitled to equal rights and may also walk down the street topless.

Dolores

 

[TheGoodLife]

Decent people wear clothes in public? Don’t be silly. I just read in the paper that a policeman arrested a woman for walking down the street topless. She sued for false arrest and won a judgement of 29,000 dollars. Yes, that’s right. It seems that if men can walk down the street without a shirt on and not be arrested, then women are entitled to equal rights and may also walk down the street topless.

Dolores

I didn’t believe this was true until I saw the story on the news. I never cared for seeing men topless on the street and now I have to see topless women as well? Guess I won’t be taking my family to New York anymore.

 

[Nepenthe]

It has been legal for women and men both to go topless in New York for quite a while now. Very few women ever do so (and I’d guess the majority of those few instances are heavy laborers, like construction workers), but if it’s legal for men, why not women? If ‘modesty’ is the problem, maybe you should agitate to have it banned for everyone.

 

[goofyjim]

I have a problem with topless women because they have been given something to keep private. Men on the other hand do not. Would so many of us be offended at the beach?

 

[Riley259]

I have a problem with topless women because they have been given something to keep private. Men on the other hand do not. Would so many of us be offended at the beach?

I guess you haven’t seen this post yet or watched the accompanying video…proceed with caution.

 

[goofyjim]

I guess you haven’t seen this post yet or watched the accompanying video…proceed with caution.

I don’t care to watch a gay pride parade. But a guy walking down the street with his top off on a hot summer day simply is not going to offend me.

 

[Teelynn]

I wonder if more conservative gay people feel embarassed and ashamed of their more flamboyant brethren? Do they resent them and feel they are hurting gays from getting wider public acceptance?

I know a few people who are gay (but celebate) that are as disgusted with this behavior as you and I are.

 

[goofyjim]

I wonder if more conservative gay people feel embarassed and ashamed of their more flamboyant brethren? Do they resent them and feel they are hurting gays from getting wider public acceptance?

I know a few people who are gay (but celebate) that are as disgusted with this behavior as you and I are.

I am.:clapping:

 

[Teelynn]

I am.:clapping:

You, sir, are a saint in progress. :knight2: :clapping:

 

[goofyjim]

You, sir, are a saint in progress. :knight2: :clapping:

I’d make greater progress if I didn’t even identify as gay, got married and raised a family, but at 43 time is running out on that option.

 

[melensdad]

I’d make greater progress if I didn’t even identify as gay, got married and raised a family, but at 43 time is running out on that option.

My priest says we each have our own vocational calling. Some to priesthood, some to be deacons, some to head families, some to do any number of other things. Perhaps God has a plan for you that you have simply not realized and perhaps it is not to be married and raise a family. Perhaps it is to start a monthly (or weekly) adult ministry for those folks with SSA and bring them into the church and show them that Catholicism will accept them? Perhaps it is any number of other vocations? But don’t judge your journey toward Sainthood by the standards of being married and raising a family, it simply may not be what you are to do.