Why would anyone want to be a Mormon or Jehovah Witnesses?

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TexanKnight:
Ditto. The fear seems to be coming from you.
 
TexanKnight said:
And I was responding to you. You have a knack for calling things absurd and being condescending when folks mention truths you can’t defend…like the plethora of versions of the First Vision. The LDS Church just picked the one they liked best…
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Still irrelevant to my post which I had given in reply to him.
 
TexanKnight said:
ah…so you can’t show me in the Bible the things I asked you to show me. I accept your resignation.
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As you should know, Mormonism teaches that many “plain and precious” passages were remove from the NT scriptures. One purpose of the Restoration has been to restore some of those lost doctrines. So the Restoration means more than just making everything look more like the Bible.
 
mathonihah said:
As you should know, Mormonism teaches that many “plain and precious” passages were remove from the NT scriptures. One purpose of the Restoration has been to restore some of those lost doctrines. So the Restoration means more than just making everything look more like the Bible.
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Again, if it was a restoration, if would restore things that existed. You cannot show they existed. Ever. So, it is not a restoration. I am grateful to you proving my point.

next?
 
TexanKnight said:
Again, if it was a restoration, if would restore things that existed. You cannot show they existed. Ever. So, it is not a restoration. I am grateful to you proving my point.

next?
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It is a restoration of that which was lost, as well as fixing what had gone wrong.
 
mathonihah said:
That is a strange one. So you reckon we should wilfully drink poison, knowing that it is poison, and then trust God that he will save us? Never heard of that before. Where did you get that idea from?
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unfortunately you consume poison by following a false doctrine
 
mathonihah said:
Okay; so JS–H doesn’t contain an account of the First Vision. I get it. Learn something new every day.
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It would truly help if you would actually read my post. I never said it did not contain an account of the alleged first vision. I said it contained only 1 of the many versions of the alleged first vision
 
mathonihah said:
It is a restoration of that which was lost, as well as fixing what had gone wrong.
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If it never existed, it was never lost. And if ZERO writers of all the writers of the Books of the Bible never ever mentioned it, it either never existed, or was not very important. Hence, no restoration
 
mathonihah said:
If you examine more carefully how the term “professors of religion” is used in the context of JS–H, it becomes clear that it refers to the priests, ministers, preachers, and activists of the respective religions, not the mere adherents.
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Since you have provided no context I see no reason to accept your assertion.
 
TexanKnight said:
It would truly help if you would actually read my post. I never said it did not contain an account of the alleged first vision. I said it contained only 1 of the many versions of the alleged first vision
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Well, I never said it contained the only account of the First Vision. I said it contains “an account of the First Vision” (link). So what are you arguing against?
 
TexanKnight said:
If it never existed, it was never lost. And if ZERO writers of all the writers of the Books of the Bible never ever mentioned it, it either never existed, or was not very important. Hence, no restoration
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Wrong. Mormonism presupposes an Apostasy, which you exclude from the equation.
 
mathonihah said:
Wrong. Mormonism presupposes an Apostasy, which you exclude from the equation.
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It has been demonstrated that mormonisms presupposition of an apostasy is wrong. It is simply based on scripture that Christ himself said he would never leave his Church.

Therefore, mormonism cannot be a restoration since Christ did not leave his Church.

Of course, you convieniently ignored that when I posted it earlier. Just like several other posts.

Couple that with some of your juvenile comments, you are proving that you are not here to engage in meaningful conversation and debate. For example:
mathonihah said:
No, you have failed,
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Don’t you hate it when you can’t drive, or manipulate the conversation because the facts get in your way?
 
mathonihah said:
Well, I never said it contained the only account of the First Vision. I said it contains “an account of the First Vision” (link). So what are you arguing against?
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as long as we agree that he had many versions of an alleged first vision and that most were very different, we have no argument at all.

Because we all know that when a man has that many versions of an event, he is not truthful.

thanks
 
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