Why would anyone want to be a Mormon or Jehovah Witnesses?

[kimg901]

When prophets and patriarchs did it, that means that God sanctioned it. But if you want a direct sanction, here is one:

"And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
“And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.” (2 Sam. 12:7–8)

I says that David’s wives were given to him by God. That is a direct sanction. There are more that can be found if you really wanted to look for them.

Lets look at this passage. The masters wives are the old kings, not Gods. In a real bible the passage is this,

Davids Punishment
7 Then Nathan said to David: "You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel: 'I anointed you king of Israel. I rescued you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your lord’s house and your lord’s wives for your own. I gave you the house of Israel and of Judah. And if this were not enough, I could count up for you still more. 9 Why have you spurned the Lord and done evil in His sight?

You are taking master/lord (notice the lower case “l”, not upper case) out of context. He was not talking about God. You also forgot to continue the passage with 9 and only added 7 & 8 for your own means. Typical lds move to take it out of context and leave out the rest of the passage

 

[mathonihah]

Still waiting to see you admit you follow ALL of the OT commandments

come out! Don’t be afraid, little buckaroo!

Yes Abraham did lie and the circumstances are not in the least obscure Moses committed murder. You are making weak attempts to label their actions as other than the sinful acts they are. This is the trouble with LDS morality.

Uh God does disapprove polygamy. One of His Commandments say “Honor thy Father and thy Mother”. It does not say honor thy mothers does it? Abram did not have 2 wives. Sara was his only wife and he had a slave girl, not another wife. For Moses, he did murder a man, but wasnt it in the defense of another? He was not a prophet of the Lord then.

Lets look at this passage. The masters wives are the old kings, not Gods. In a real bible the passage is this,

Davids Punishment
7 Then Nathan said to David: "You are the man! Thus says the Lord God of Israel: 'I anointed you king of Israel. I rescued you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave you your lord’s house and your lord’s wives for your own. I gave you the house of Israel and of Judah. And if this were not enough, I could count up for you still more. 9 Why have you spurned the Lord and done evil in His sight?

You are taking master/lord (notice the lower case “l”, not upper case) out of context. He was not talking about God. You also forgot to continue the passage with 9 and only added 7 & 8 for your own means. Typical lds move to take it out of context and leave out the rest of the passage

These kinds of cheap, illogical, desperate, meaningless posts just don’t deserve a reply, and will not get any.

 

[TexanKnight]

These kinds of cheap, illogical, desperate, meaningless posts just don’t deserve a reply, and will not get any.

lol…truth offends you that much? You are THAT insecure in your faith that you ignore those of us who prove you wrong?

you are so unable to respond that you need to run?

Don’t be so…um…Mormon!

 

[kimg901]

These kinds of cheap, illogical, desperate, meaningless posts just don’t deserve a reply, and will not get any.

So quoting the Bible is cheap, illogical, desperate and meaningless? Man oh man. You need a wake up call. If you have noticed, we dont give you “personal beliefs” but give you evidence from Scripture and your own lds sources to how wrong you are. But you know what, its your soul, not ours. We are just trying to save it. But continue to deny Christ and the One True God by believing in a man made religion and its teachings or doctrines (which are the same). May God have mercy on your soul.

P.S,
Maybe you should quit posting here. If you were a fighter pilot, you would have been shot down multiple times.

 

[TexanKnight]

After all, the last person to be this afraid of his detractors was Joseph Smith!

 

[RebeccaJ]

Yes he did. The Bible is full of it.

Yes, it was a cultural practice, but was never condoned by God.

No he didn’t. Show me where.

Matthew 19

4He said in reply, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate.”
7 They said to him, “Then why did Moses command that the man give the woman a bill of divorce and dismiss [her]?”
8 He said to them, “Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
9 I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery.”
10 [His] disciples said to him, “If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 He answered, “Not all can accept [this] word, but only those to whom that is granted.

Verse 4: God created ONE man and ONE woman. When Jesus points to the relationship of ONE man and ONE woman, as the example for how God intends marriage, we pay attention.

Verse 5: ONE wife, not wives

Verse 6: ONE man and ONE woman are joined in ONE flesh, which one cannot be made separate.

Verse 8: God allowed a man to take another wife because of the hardness of hearts.

Verse 9: Marriage of ONE man and ONE woman is permanent until death. Therefore, a man who takes another wife is committing adultery.

Verse 10: Like you, the Pharisees thought it should be lawful to take another wife.

 

[zaffiroborant]

P.S,
Maybe you should quit posting here. If you were a fighter pilot, you would have been shot down multiple times.

No he would have pulled out of the fight or refused to engage in the fight to begin with like any sensible pilot with a defective aircraft

 

[kimg901]

No he would have pulled out of the fight or refused to engage in the fight to begin with.

LOL, Too true b ut we do have N.L.O.S missles so we could get him without seeing him

 

[SteveVH]

The bit about gay marriages was a joke; but the fact remains that polygamy has been practiced throughout history. The Bible is full of it. The antediluvians practiced it; the post-diluvians practiced it. The patriarchs practiced it. The Jews practiced it. The Law of Moses permitted it. Some of Jesus’ disciples would have practiced it. And the earliest Christians would have practiced it.

Just one more comment. Why in the world did Jesus give this teaching, concerning God’s intentions and will since the beginning of creation, if, in fact, it was god’s will that man practice polygamy:

Mark 10:6-8:* “But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, ‘and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh.”*

God’s plan from the beginning was that two become one flesh, not three or four or 33 becoming one flesh. If you will look a little closer at Scripture you will see that each of those who practiced polygamy were punished for doing so. God allowed it, but die not will it, just as he allowed divorce because of the hardness of their hearts. He allows people to murder each other, but that does not mean it is his will.