Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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edwest said:
Bacteria acquire resistance through a built-in mechanism called Horizontal Gene Transfer. Viruses respond with a built-in mechanism that changes their outer protein coat, resulting in different strains of the virus.
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Bacteria and viruse are just … weird. Sorry, but there … I said it.
The point has always been that bacteria always remain bacteria.
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Isn’t is true that one of Lenski’s E.coli suddenly evolved into some ape-like creature (a remarkable example of Punctuated Equibrium in action) that scampered away and escaped before they could study it?
Unlike human origins where it is said that modern humans somehow changed over the years by way of an unguided process.
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I think the atheist theory that our original ancestors were rocks is outstanding and worthy of merit and great respect. It reflects not only very rational and very scientific thinking, but formidable intelligence as well.
 
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Aloysium said:
To people who think that all knowledge must be empirically derived, I would ask how they validate that statement and proceed from there.
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I wonder which empirically-derived knowledge says “all knowledge must be empirically derived”.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Science or philosophy?
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The boundaries of science are perhaps defined by philosophy. When theism was the dominant philosophy, theology was called “the Queen of the sciences”. But now that the Enlightenment’s secular philosoply dominates, science has been reduced to the purely material and theology is scorned and laughed at.
 
I think what Aloysium means by “evolution” in this instance is the belief/information/conclusion/theory that all life on earth evolved from a microbe over millions of years.
 
Gabika50 said:
Hence the reason it is called a theory and not scientific fact.
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Many evo-diehards do call it a fact.
Until something better and not religious comes along, museums and schools will throw us together with the apes…
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Throw God out the picture and a contiguous process of biological evolution is the inevitable conclusion - in which case, human and extant primates must share a common ancestor.
 
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According to naturalistic evolutionism, humans are just one product among millions of a blind, mindless process. In which case, the life of a human being is really no more important or meaningful than the life of a flea.
 
William_Scott said:
The postulated suffering and death of multiplied billions of animals in the course of evolutionary “progress” from amoeba to man is a libel against the character of the Creator
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Let’s look at that from a slightly different perspective:
The postulated suffering and death of multiplied billions of animals and of every unborn human child in the course of the Flood is a libel against the character of the Creator.
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And your point is?

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“God of the Gaps” syndrome
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I wholeheartedly support the “God of the Gaps” approach, because I believe the history of life is not the result of natural forces alone - which means a scientific explanation of that history is going to fail … miserably.
 
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Edgar said:
Really? So eradicating smallpox was no better than a theory about how feathers evolved?
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Eradicating smallpox was a lot worse because it frustrated God’s purpose in creating smallpox in the first place. At least that is how a few religious people argue. The same religious attitude is affecting polio immunisation in some places.

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rossum said:
My favourite Buddhist miracle was performed by the Bodhisattva Vimalakirti who fed 80,000 people from a single bowl of rice.
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Interesting. So in a miracle tournament, who do you think would win - Buddha or Jesus?
 
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Edgar said:
Interesting. So in a miracle tournament, who do you think would win - Buddha or Jesus?
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One day the Buddha met a man meditating by the side of a river. He asked the man, “Why are you meditating here?”

The man replied, “So I can attain the power to walk on water and cross the river.”

The Buddha replied, “Don’t you know that there is a ferry a mile down the river where you can cross for a single copper?”

rossum
 
the Miracle at Sravasti .

“… the Buddha proceeded to perform the Yamaka-pātihāriya (Twin Miracle), unattainable to any disciple and so called because it consisted in the appearance of phenomena of opposite character in pairs, e.g. emitting flames from the upper part of his body and a stream of water from the lower, and then alternatively. Flames of fire and streams of water also proceeded alternatively from the right side of his body and from the left…”

Could this have been the result of eating too many red-hot chilli peppers?
 
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One day the Buddha met a man meditating by the side of a river. He asked the man, “Why are you meditating here?” The man replied, “So I can attain the power to walk on water and cross the river.” The Buddha replied, “Don’t you know that there is a ferry a mile down the river where you can cross for a single copper?”
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Wow, what astounding wisdom! 🙂
 
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Random mutations and natural selection are features of this fallen world.

As what would happen if i began inserting and deleting letters from this statement, changes to the genome and its associated cellular processes results in a loss of meaning and information. The created order is disrupted. This clearly happens to individual creatures and in successive generations. As fresh and new as is any baby, as much as sexual reproduction mitigates the result of genetic errors, in spite of self-healing elements within the cell, the likelihood is that the newborn will carry more damage to its DNA than its greatgrandparents. This is a fact.

As to natural selection, we see today its impact everywhere with the great extinction of species on this planet, unable to cope with environmental changes that no longer give them a place.

Evolution describes these realities clearly. The delusion is that they are creative. They are manifestations of death, a consequence of the fall.
 
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