Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

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rossum said:
That misleading was exactly what God planned and allowed, for the reasons you say. Given that, then why were you disappointed?

Your arguments are not always self-consistent, buffalo.
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It was sarcasm. You didn’t see it?
 
Metis1 said:
It was not “reversed” but was added to.

Also, there’s such a thing in Catholic theology called “ongoing revelation”, which should be logical if one accepts Jesus’ promise that he would guide his Church through til the end of time through the power of the Holy Spirit. A church, or any other kind of organization, that never changes doesn’t need to be “guided”.
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Church teaching is Revelation ended with the Apostles.
 
Metis1 said:
esus’ promise that he would guide his Church through til the end of time through the power of the Holy Spirit. A church, or any other kind of organization, that never changes doesn’t need to be “guided”.
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This was part of the plan? Let them believe that Adam and Eve were real and Eve came from Adam’s side and they were created, etc… and 1800 years later suddenly enlighten them that it was all wrong? I don’t think so.
 
A existential creationist perspective incorporates the same material scientific facts as does the ToE, but includes the inherent psychological structures that define different kinds of things better that do the physical, as well as taking into account the ontological realities of things as relational events existing within a hierarchy of being, from atoms to mankind. I do understand that this may sound like word salad to some. This isn’t the place where such considerations can be discussed in detail. I am presenting, for what it’s worth in itself, a different perspective that might encourage the pursuit of what does matter - a relationship with our Creator.
 
No, that is not what the Church teachings at all, as it is taught that we and the Church have the power of prayer through the Holy Spirit, which is why the Church continued to make adjustments, some quite major through its councils, over almost two centuries. The “proof is in the pudding”, as is said.
 
buffalo said:
This was part of the plan? Let them believe that Adam and Eve were real and Eve came from Adam’s side and they were created, etc… and 1800 years later suddenly enlighten them that it was all wrong? I don’t think so.
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Repeating the above ad nauseum doesn’t change the fact that the Church now believes that the ToE is acceptable as long as it is understood God was behind it all. How can you say you believe in the Church but then not believe in the Church?

Throughout it’s entire history, the Church has had to adjust to new situations and new information, and they have done as such. If one truly believes in the power of the Holy Spirit through prayer, they should understand. If not, then there’s no Trinity for them.
 
Metis1 said:
No, that is not what the Church teachings at all, as it is taught that we and the Church have the power of prayer through the Holy Spirit, which is why the Church continued to make adjustments, some quite major through its councils, over almost two centuries. The “proof is in the pudding”, as is said.
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Adjustments? Really? Our understanding grows organically in that it gets fuller. We don’t trim the bush or branches.
 
Metis1 said:
Repeating the above ad nauseum doesn’t change the fact that the Church now believes that the ToE is acceptable as long as it is understood God was behind it all. How can you say you believe in the Church but then not believe in the Church?

Throughout it’s entire history, the Church has had to adjust to new situations and new information, and they have done as such. If one truly believes in the power of the Holy Spirit through prayer, they should understand. If not, then there’s no Trinity for them.
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Yet, no magisterial document has been produced showing this. The faithful would need a full and comprehensive explanation of why we got it wrong for so long.

Science being provisional is doing the adjusting. It is known as ID.
 
Right now, scientists have no other choice but to take the genome apart as if it were a highly complicated device. To know how the device works requires genetic knock-out experiments and the use of a device called CRISPR/ cas 9. Evolution provides no guidance.

Since the human genome is intelligently designed, without knowing or admitting it, bioinformatics had to be developed to help solve all the unanswered questions. Like why does this molecular switch do that?
 
buffalo said:
ID the science does not.
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And if you want to replace the science of evolution with a different theory, then your new theory has to be science as well.

Would you accept a Hindu replacement for evolution, talking about the actions of Brahma creating life, Vishnu sustaining life and Shiva destroying life?
 
buffalo said:
Tell me more… attributes, power etc… He would be considered the supreme being?
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Brahman does not change and does not act. Brahman is. All actions are performed by proxies.

What definition of supremacy are you using? Brahman cannot be the supreme actor because Brahman cannot act.
 
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