Why you should think that the Natural-Evolution of species is true

[Edgar]

There were no blind Catholics

Ya coulda fooled me! A shepherd who can’t see an blatantly obvious “wolf in sheep’s clothing” when it comes along … and then opens the gate and invites it in(!) – is most definitely blind.

just deceived and lied to Catholics. Catholics wanted the truth when radical feminists appeared. They did not get it.

It’s interesting that you say that, as I believe feminism is a global replay of the lies and deception that Eve fell victim to in the Garden of Eden: Satan promised Eve the same things feminism offers today’s women - equality and empowerment. Satan lied and Eve got death instead, and feminism - due to its deadly effect on birth rates - is slowly killing every society that is foolish enough to embrace it. But I guess a society that is too stupid to even produce enough offspring doesn’t deserve to survive.

The Church rightly condemns contraception, yet 99% of clergy and religious enthusiastically support women getting one of the most devastating contraceptives ever invented – a university degree.

Feminism is pure cultural Marxism - another “wolf in sheep’s clothing” masquerading as “equality” (when Our Lady of Fatima warned that the “errors of Russia” will “annihilate various nations”, I wonder if she was referring to Feminism the Destroyer of Families, which is really an offspring of communism).

 

[Bradskii]

How do know so much about Nazis?

Bradskii:

Last week, my grandson’s homework comprised him making a family tree. Only back three generations to his great grandfathers, but he enjoyed doing it. We’re overseas at the moment but it was neat catching up in a video call and telling him about my father. He thought it was cool that half his family were from the other side of the planet.

When Jerry Coyne said “evolution” he may have been referring to the theory of common descent - for which there are no “commercial applications” and no practical use in applied biology.

Nazis? You should do some travelling, Eddie. It broadens the mind. Quite often a great deal more than all that book learnin’. I’ll be in Auschwitz in three or four days time. That’ll tell me a lot about Nazis.

And denying common descent beause there is no commercial application (apart from being simply downright silly - it didn’t happen because we can’t use it to increase our bottom line!), it’s a shocking denial of the quest for knowledge. Luckily your type stays at home and broods about educating women and giving them equality while the rest of humanity is out seeking that knowledge.

 

[Bradskii]

The Church rightly condemns contraception, yet 99% of clergy and religious enthusiastically support women getting one of the most devastating contraceptives ever invented – a university degree.

This is too good to be tucked away in a discussion on evolution. It needs a greater airing. Feel free to join the new discussion at the time of your choosing.

 

[PickyPicky]

The Church rightly condemns contraception, yet 99% of clergy and religious enthusiastically support women getting one of the most devastating contraceptives ever invented – a university degree.

Perhaps it would be wiser if they just stuck to the Kinder and the Küche, then.

 

[rossum]

A theory with evidence is still just a theory … which falls a long short in the credibility stakes than a theory that can actually be tested.

Evolution can and has been tested. Every time an insect evolves resistance to an insecticide evolution is tested. It has passed every test.

Your personal incredulity has no impact on the scientific support for evolution.

 

[Techno2000]

Evolution can and has been tested. Every time an insect evolves resistance to an insecticide evolution is tested. It has passed every test.

Yes…rossum, and don’t forget about that tadpole to frog phenomenon.

 

[rossum]

Yes…rossum, and don’t forget about that tadpole to frog phenomenon.

And your evidence that the transformation from tadpole to frog did not evolve is…?

 

[Techno2000]

Techno2000:

Yes…rossum, and don’t forget about that tadpole to frog phenomenon.

And your evidence that the transformation from tadpole to frog did not evolve is…?

What I mean is, using insecticide resistance to prove macroevolution is about as weak as using the tadpole to frog scenario to prove macroevolution.

 

[rossum]

What I mean is, using insecticide resistance to prove macroevolution is about as weak as using the tadpole to frog scenario to prove macroevolution.

I have already shown examples of macroevolution (i.e. a new species) caused by one mutation - Procambarus virginalis - and by three mutations - Chrysopa downesi. If one single mutation is not sufficient for you then you have a big problem.

Science has the evidence. Religiously based personal opinions have much less evidence. For example, where is your evidence of any deity creating a new species?

 

[Bradskii]

Edgar:

The Church rightly condemns contraception, yet 99% of clergy and religious enthusiastically support women getting one of the most devastating contraceptives ever invented – a university degree.

This is too good to be tucked away in a discussion on evolution. It needs a greater airing. Feel free to join the new discussion at the time of your choosing.

C’mon, Ed. The thread is going well. Come and join in:

Should women be treated as equals Philosophy

However women in Saudi Arabia are not kept from higher education. Women can only be treated by women physicians so women do attend medical school. There are banks for women staffed mostly by women. So there are opportunities for women even in Saudi Arabia. Only thing though is the male guardianship system which treats women as perpetual minors.

 

[edwest211]

Evolution, as presented here, is a massive storytelling device. It claims to explain everything but can do nothing with its explanations. The clear reasons for this ongoing promotion?

1. Your Bible (or any holy book) is rubbish.
2. Atheism is good.

 

[edwest211]

Your reply has a sharp edge and the “university degree” does not help the argument. Radical feminism is patterned after Marxism. That can easily be shown. Any woman who wants a degree, or who wants to be a registered nurse, should not be criticized.

Radical feminism needs to be exposed for the lies it contains. However, don’t blame people who have undergone, and are still undergoing, decades of propaganda. I’ll break it down.

1. 1960 The FDA approves the birth control pill, which is then weaponized.
2. 1967 Time magazine runs a cover story to promote The Pill. It promises a lie. A false freedom. Freedom from fear. Fear of what? Babies. Most women did not buy the lie.
3. 1970s All men are the enemy. All women are the victims. 'Listen to us! Women! Be afraid of men. They just want to use you and abuse you! They are ALL male chauvenist pigs."

Think about it. That created fertile ground for:

1980s I opened the newspaper to the Classifieds and I see many ads like this.
“No kids? $75 and you’re out. Call 800-DIVORCE.”

What choice did women have? Men, who now view women as objects, expect women to be on the pill. And the only way a woman is going to keep a man is going to be to have sex with him - without children. Babies are marketed as a pain, a waste of time. Why spend years raising kids when you can party, party, party?

And when lots of people start divorcing without cause except “irreconcilable differences,” and when total strangers yell back - “How dare you tell people not to divorce!? They are all OBVIOUSLY in bad marriages!!” That’s a lie. Not all of them. That massive divorce surge was from convenience, from minor annoyance, from ‘I can now marry someone who is younger and prettier.’

Please think before you write. I know it’s difficult, but I encourage you.

 

[edwest211]

You are wasting everyone’s time.

 

[buffalo]

Radical feminism needs to be exposed for the lies it contains. However, don’t blame people who have undergone, and are still undergoing, decades of propaganda. I’ll break it down.

Subverted: How I Helped the Sexual Revolution Hijack the Women’s Movement​

Contraception and abortion were not originally part of the 1960s women’s movement. How did the women’s movement, which fought for equal opportunity for women in education and the workplace, and the sexual revolution, which reduced women to ambitious sex objects, become so united?

In Subverted, Sue Ellen Browder documents for the first time how it all happened, in her own life and in the life of an entire country. Trained at the University of Missouri School of Journalism to be an investigative journalist, Browder unwittingly betrayed her true calling and became a propagandist for sexual liberation. As a long-time freelance writer for Cosmopolitan magazine, she wrote pieces meant to soft-sell unmarried sex, contraception, and abortion as the single woman’s path to personal fulfillment. She did not realize until much later that propagandists higher and cleverer than herself were influencing her thinking and her personal choices as they subverted the women’s movement.

The thirst for truth, integrity, and justice for women that led Browder into journalism in the first place eventually led her to find forgiveness and freedom in the place she least expected to find them. Her in-depth research, her probing analysis, and her honest self-reflection set the record straight and illumine a way forward for others who have suffered from the unholy alliance between the women’s movement and the sexual revolution.

https://www.amazon.com/Subverted-Helped-Sexual-Revolution-Movement/dp/1586177966

 

[PickyPicky]

You are wasting everyone’s time

And a very good afternoon to you, ed.

 

[Bradskii]

Evolution, as presented here, is a massive storytelling device. It claims to explain everything but can do nothing with its explanations. The clear reasons for this ongoing promotion?

1. Your Bible (or any holy book) is rubbish.
2. Atheism is good.

Straw man. Evolution does not deny God.

But it does deny your fundamental interpretation of scripture. Let’s not kid ourselves that that means the same thing.

Any news on the age of the planet?

 

[Bradskii]

Your reply has a sharp edge and the “university degree” does not help the argument. Radical feminism is patterned after Marxism. That can easily be shown. Any woman who wants a degree, or who wants to be a registered nurse, should not be criticized.

Off topic, Ed. Another has been started on the subject. I urge you to contribute.

 

[Bradskii]

edwest211:

Radical feminism needs to be exposed for the lies it contains. However, don’t blame people who have undergone, and are still undergoing, decades of propaganda. I’ll break it down.

Subverted: How I Helped the Sexual Revolution Hijack the Women’s Movement​

Contraception and abortion were not originally part of the 1960s women’s movement. How did the women’s movement, which fought for equal opportunity for women in education and the workplace, and the sexual revolution, which reduced women to ambitious sex objects, become so united?

Same applies to you, Buff. Join the the new thread and make your views known!

 

[edwest211]

The great Bradskii has spoken, and we… uh… we…

 

[rossum]

It claims to explain everything

False. Absurdly false. Evolution does not explain gravity, quantum mechanics, friction, fluid mechanics and a great many other things in science. And that ignores all the things outside science that evolution does not explain either.

Do you really expect complete rubbish like this to convince anyone? You need to think more carefully before posting.

Atheism is good.

Again false. Any theistic evolutionist will disagree with you: Francis Collins, Ken Miller and many more. Why do you ignore your fellow Christians?