WHY ?????

[Phemie]

Right now Ihave got an “answer” from some priest in our region .That it is.“Because Baptism should be in the parish to which you are assigned. Or, with the permission of the rector of your parish - in another parish. In this case, the document is sent to the baptism of his native parish.” It mean that I will NEVER cannot baptize a child without PERMISSION!! oF COURSE,our PRIEST never GIVE THIS PERMISSION…FOR HIM THIS IS -MONEY.
Who has made those “RULES”???

The Church made these rules.

When a Pastor is installed, he assumes certain responsibilities and baptizing his flock is one of those. The responsibility belongs to no one else, in fact, no other priest may take it upon himself to baptize a person who isn’t his parishioner (or parishioner’s child) unless there is a danger of death or the person’s Pastor has given permission. It makes it easier for record keeping and, since you brought up ‘money’, it’s not fair for a priest to take a stipend that another priest is entitled to.

I don’t know how it is in your country. Here, Pastors get a monthly salary (‘stipend’ if they’re religious priests) from the parish so a stipend for a baptism is not going to mean the difference between having meat or not for dinner. Perhaps they depend on stipends much more in your country.

It appears you might have to resign yourself to having your Pastor baptize your child. After all, the important thing is not ‘who’ baptizes but that the child is baptized. I’m sorry that that may be painful for you.

 

[matumba]

The Church made these rules.

When a Pastor is installed, he assumes certain responsibilities and baptizing his flock is one of those. The responsibility belongs to no one else, in fact, no other priest may take it upon himself to baptize a person who isn’t his parishioner (or parishioner’s child) unless there is a danger of death or the person’s Pastor has given permission. It makes it easier for record keeping and, since you brought up ‘money’, it’s not fair for a priest to take a stipend that another priest is entitled to.

I don’t know how it is in your country. Here, Pastors get a monthly salary (‘stipend’ if they’re religious priests) from the parish so a stipend for a baptism is not going to mean the difference between having meat or not for dinner. Perhaps they depend on stipends much more in your country.

It appears you might have to resign yourself to having your Pastor baptize your child. After all, the important thing is not ‘who’ baptizes but that the child is baptized. I’m sorry that that may be painful for you.

That is written by women from Australia:“And where are these rules spelled out? We are all baptized wherever they want, as well as choose their parish. My mother in law has recently changed this parish, in the old gave way to the priest and she did so well, could not adapt to his accent. There are no problems, go to the other, a little further away. My brother lives in England, her husband, two sons baptized in Australia, did not take any permission. Shown in the records of children in Catholic school certificate of baptism and all.”

 

[Phemie]

That is written by women from Australia:“And where are these rules spelled out? We are all baptized wherever they want, as well as choose their parish. My mother in law has recently changed this parish, in the old gave way to the priest and she did so well, could not adapt to his accent. There are no problems, go to the other, a little further away. My brother lives in England, her husband, two sons baptized in Australia, did not take any permission. Shown in the records of children in Catholic school certificate of baptism and all.”

Sad to say, not every priest follows the rules and that just makes it much more difficult for those who do.

I’ve seen this when a former Pastor never bothered to ask the religion of godparents/sponsors. Several children he baptized have no ‘godparent’ since no Catholic was asked – the people who stood there that day were non-Catholics and in some cases probably not even baptized. When parents presented for Baptism for a subsequent child they were furious when they were told one ‘godparent’ had to be Catholic – they thought we had made that up.

 

[Allegra]

Parishes are territorial in the diocese of St. Louis. You have to have a letter of permission to register in a parish outside of the one where you live. I think this is the case in most places outside of the US and even many places inside the US. I wonder why the priest won’t agree to write the letter for your son? If it is the stipend that is the issue, could you offer to pay your home parish the stipend as well? I don’t know how much the stipend is but that’s a though. I was married by a priest who was not pastor of the parish we were married in. We paid a stipend to the parish that hosted the wedding and to the priest as well. Perhaps that would solve the problem for you.

 

[pnewton]

The best move would be to contact the bishop with the details of all the problems and reason why (1) local baptism is ill-advised, and (2) why even getting permission is problematic, and ask if he will grant some disposition for the baptism.

 

[Allegra]

The best move would be to contact the bishop with the details of all the problems and reason why (1) local baptism is ill-advised, and (2) why even getting permission is problematic, and ask if he will grant some disposition for the baptism.

I agree. This would be another course of action to take.

 

[adrift]

Why do I have to christen my child just ONLY at the place of residence? And if I don’t want to make it by the priest who abused my wife,my family??? Can I make it at another church,at another priest? And MUST I to get some resolution from somebody???

My daughter had problems with the parish in baptizing her children.

Daughter
#1 a family friend was called and he arranged to baptize her at his church.
#2 a priest from another parish was called and he arranged to baptize her at his church. Priest was unknown to daughter until she called him and explained the circumstances.
#3 Daughter wanted to have the baptism with her sister-in-law’s baby. Priest was contacted and asked. Priest was neither families parish. The Parish was the Mother-in-law’s and in the middle of where the families live they have about 300 miles between them.
#4 was actually done in their parish.

Why do I have to christen my child just ONLY at the place of residence?

You don’t

And if I don’t want to make it by the priest who abused my wife,my family??? Can I make it at another church,at another priest? And MUST I to get some resolution from somebody???

Just call another parish and explain. Maybe join the other parish so you are a parishioner.

 

[iloveangels]

Why do I have to christen my child just ONLY at the place of residence? And if I don’t want to make it by the priest who abused my wife,my family??? Can I make it at another church,at another priest? And MUST I to get some resolution from somebody???

Back up. Were you abused? If so, call the police department. Now.

 

[matumba]

My daughter had problems with the parish in baptizing her children.

Daughter
#1 a family friend was called and he arranged to baptize her at his church.
#2 a priest from another parish was called and he arranged to baptize her at his church. Priest was unknown to daughter until she called him and explained the circumstances.
#3 Daughter wanted to have the baptism with her sister-in-law’s baby. Priest was contacted and asked. Priest was neither families parish. The Parish was the Mother-in-law’s and in the middle of where the families live they have about 300 miles between them.
#4 was actually done in their parish.

You don’t

Just call another parish and explain. Maybe join the other parish so you are a parishioner.

Maybe you are right…

 

[Bklynguy]

Parishes are territorial in the diocese of St. Louis. You have to have a letter of permission to register in a parish outside of the one where you live. I think this is the case in most places outside of the US and even many places inside the US. I wonder why the priest won’t agree to write the letter for your son? If it is the stipend that is the issue, could you offer to pay your home parish the stipend as well? I don’t know how much the stipend is but that’s a though. I was married by a priest who was not pastor of the parish we were married in. We paid a stipend to the parish that hosted the wedding and to the priest as well. Perhaps that would solve the problem for you.

This is very interesting and makes me realize that I need to look into something before our second child is born. Our first child was baptized at what was then my parish. We have sinced moved (and are within a different parish boundary) and plan to have our second child baptized at the same church. This makes me realize that I may need a letter from my current parish priest (or, maybe I should check the church out since it is within my parish).

Just a side note: I live in Brooklyn, so I am within a 1-2 mile radius of about 5 churches. It is quite easy for one to move within the same neighborhood of a borough and find themselves in a different parish.

 

[Bklynguy]

Just call another parish and explain. Maybe join the other parish so you are a parishioner.

I agree–this is definitely worth a try. You won’t know until you ask.

 

[jilly4ski]

I agree–this is definitely worth a try. You won’t know until you ask.

It is usually a matter of routine to get a letter of delegation from one’s territorial parish, in the US where such rules are enforced. I am living on the boarder of 3 parishes right now, but we ended up joining the closest, but that isn’t our territorial parish. So I am in pursuit of one right now. (A newly enforced rule in my diocese). You just call the territorial parish and ask.