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Religio71
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if so, how would you accomplish this?
I believe NO.
I believe NO.
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Sister_Leocadia
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My sister is LDS/Mormon. She joined around a year ago. As far as I know, LDS members do not believe in the trinity and believe that salvation depends on our deeds as well as Jesus’ sacrifice. They also believe that Satan and Jesus were brothers and that God has a physical body.
I think that most of these LDS/Mormon beliefs would contradict Catholic beliefs.
I think that most of these LDS/Mormon beliefs would contradict Catholic beliefs.
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Religio71
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I agree. Just to be clear (for zerinus
), Mormons believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They believe that they are three distinct Persons, some calling them three gods, who are united in purpose, will, intent, etc., but not Substance (they are not consubstantial). Thus, they do not believe in the Nicene Creed. They also believe that the Father and Son both have glorified bodies of flesh and bone. All beings are the offspring of the Father and His wife, the Heavenly Mother. Jesus was the first born, and the only begotten Son (as in, He doesn’t have an earthly father). Satan/Lucifer is also a spirit child of the Father, as we all are.
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Siddhartha
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There’s a poster here named “Tsuzuki” who is both LDS and Catholic. You can “search” for his name and look up his posts. I don’t think he has posted in several months, though.
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Religio71
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Oh yes, I’ve read some of his posts over on MADB. They believe similar things, as he has talked about receiving the Catholic Eucharist and I don’t even think he’s Catholic.
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Roman_Catholic_1
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They can be Catholic and Mormon so long as they reject just about everything that makes someone a Catholic or a Mormon. When they cease to be either, it may be possible to be both. I guess 
God bless you
God bless you
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Theodora
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WhyMe,
On another thread on this board you mentioned that you’ve read about St Faustina, St Therese, and Dorothy Day.
You remind me of a poster on one of the larger political boards with a Religious subforum, who says he is Mormon. This particular poster says he likes to read about tCatholic history and the lives of Catholic Saints. The ones that he has listed are the ones famous for their mystical writings: John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, even Thomas Aquinas, and others.
Either, there are more like you who are basically Mormon, but are attracted to certain things Catholic or you are the same guy on the other forum, and no he does not go by the screen name Joseph Smith. .
Thought you might be interested to know, if you’re not the same person,.
On another thread on this board you mentioned that you’ve read about St Faustina, St Therese, and Dorothy Day.
You remind me of a poster on one of the larger political boards with a Religious subforum, who says he is Mormon. This particular poster says he likes to read about tCatholic history and the lives of Catholic Saints. The ones that he has listed are the ones famous for their mystical writings: John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, even Thomas Aquinas, and others.
Either, there are more like you who are basically Mormon, but are attracted to certain things Catholic or you are the same guy on the other forum, and no he does not go by the screen name Joseph Smith. .
Thought you might be interested to know, if you’re not the same person,.
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MelanieAnne
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It is absolutely NOT possible to be Catholic and Mormon at the same time as the doctrines of the two faiths are radically different. Mormons may have co-opted the terminology of Christianity, but the Mormon definition of many theological terms is radically different from traditional Christianity, so much so that it is impossible to have a productive theological discussion without a precise definition of the terms.
Having said that, people have been known to CLAIM to be whatever they wish. Some posters to this forum have claimed to be both Catholic and Mormon. This does not make any such claim valid. Any claim of some blended faith, some Mormon/Catholic hybrid, is basically delusional. While that may sound harsh to some, it is, in fact, true.
The claim to being a Catholic Mormon, or Mormon Catholic is usually the result of an individual picking out the parts of each faith that they like, rejecting the parts they don’t like, and declaring themselves to be a follower of both faiths. In fact, such persons are following neither faith.
At least for Catholics, when it comes to determining who is a Catholic and who is not, the doctrines of the Church are of fundamental importance. Part of being a Catholic is accepting all that the Church presents as doctrine. ALL is a key word there. Someone who accepts parts of Catholic doctrine and rejects other parts is not Catholic. PERIOD.
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Roman_Catholic_1
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I have to disagree. It is quite possible that Catholic and Mormon is an entirely new religion. Whatever it is though, it is neither Catholic nor Mormon
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Jerusha
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Agreed, RC. This is just a part of the splintering process of LDS culture. As the Neo-Mormon reformation continues, new religions will evolve, including Motholic. The “Christian Identity” movement, for example, included many aspects of Mormonism. It is going to be interesting. Many, disillusioned with the fragility of
“new religions”, will migrate to mainstream religions. Others are embracing atheism and agnosticism, at least for a while.
There is an interesting thread over at exmormon.org right now, that discusses the “evolution of religion”, proposing an emphasis on ethical behavior rather than “out there” beliefs. Oh!! How new!!
“new religions”, will migrate to mainstream religions. Others are embracing atheism and agnosticism, at least for a while.
There is an interesting thread over at exmormon.org right now, that discusses the “evolution of religion”, proposing an emphasis on ethical behavior rather than “out there” beliefs. Oh!! How new!!
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MelanieAnne
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If it serves as a transition for some people to enter the True Church of Christ, it’s OK with me!I have to disagree. It is quite possible that Catholic and Mormon is an entirely new religion. Whatever it is though, it is neither Catholic nor Mormon
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zerinus
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I am not an expert in Catholic theology; but as far as I can tell, when a Catholic joins another religion, he still remains technically a Catholic, unless he is excommunicated from the church, which is not done very often. So if there is a problem here, it is one for the Catholic Church to deal with, not for Why Me to deal with. He is not technically breaking any rules by considering himself both.
Interestingly, in the LDS Church too at one time, as far as I know, if someone joined another religion, he could still technically remain a Mormon, unless he was exed, which was not done automatically. The rules have since changed, apparently, and a Mormon who joins another church can no longer remain a Mormon. But my guess is that the reason why they have done that is because in the vast majority of cases, those Mormons who join another religion turn against Mormonism and become hostile to it. In other words, they genuinely apostatize and become enemies to the Church, which leaves the Church no other option but to excommunicate them, or ask them to resign their membership. If they didn’t do that, I don’t think the LDS Church would be in a hurry to excommunicate them. And Why Me hasn’t done that—with regard to either church.
So it looks like the LDS and Catholic churches are broadly in agreement on that. One could technically consider himself a member of both churches, without incurring any penalties from either side. So if the two churches don’t have a problem with that, then I don’t see why you should. I don’t think that your opinion on that counts for a lot with either church.
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Religio71
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Zerinus, the Catholic Church actually teaches that if one becomes a heretic, they are excommunicated from the Church latae sententiae. Heresy is also a major sin, mortal sin, which would preclude the person from receiving any sacraments until they confessed. So at least for Catholicism, it is not possible to be Catholic and Mormon at the same time.
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zerinus
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What they say and what they do are two different things. I doubt if the RCC would technically regard him as a heretic, unless he specifically wrote to them formally and declared himself a heretic and asked to be excommunicated.
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Religio71
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Zerinus, “what they say and what they do” applies to literally everything in life. I go by the official beliefs, as I know that you do as well, otherwise you’d be okay with us saying that LDs believe that Adam is God, or that God the Father lived on another planet.
As an actual Catholic, I know that no priest that actually believed the Faith would allow a Catholic to be baptized in the Church, claim that he had a testimony of the truth of the Book of Mormon, etc., and still partake in our sacraments. And any Catholic that actually believes the Faith knows that it is a mortal sin to join other churches, believe that no other church has priesthood authority except the LDS Church, etc. For Catholics, we do an “examination of conscience” prior to confession, and if this was actually done, it would come up.
And excommunication latae sententiae is automatic. It doesn’t need a sentence. This is why we say Catholics know what the Faith is (or should know), and know that believing heresy, such as in the Book of Mormon or being baptized in the LDS Church, is heresy and a mortal sin.
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why_me
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I am not the same person. I think that mormons are encouraged to read from good books. And I am sure that there are a few who enjoy reading about catholic saints and their works. There is much to learn from catholic saints. I prefer the less intellectual saints like saint faustina, dorothy day and saint therese. Dorothy Day found Therese’s book boring but enlightening in how she believed in doing simple things to be a saint.WhyMe,
On another thread on this board you mentioned that you’ve read about St Faustina, St Therese, and Dorothy Day.
You remind me of a poster on one of the larger political boards with a Religious subforum, who says he is Mormon. This particular poster says he likes to read about tCatholic history and the lives of Catholic Saints. The ones that he has listed are the ones famous for their mystical writings: John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, even Thomas Aquinas, and others.
Either, there are more like you who are basically Mormon, but are attracted to certain things Catholic or you are the same guy on the other forum, and no he does not go by the screen name Joseph Smith. .
By the way, I just bought a beautiful old statue of Saint Therese, the little flower. It is damaged but I like it.
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why_me
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You are correct. And I must say that your post is much more understanding than the catholic posters who seem to have a problem with the lds church. They have condemned me to hell.
I say no evil against the lds or the catholic church. But I do claim that both churches have imperfect people.
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zerinus
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But don’t forget that you are not the judge of that. The Catholic Church is. And they are willing to tolerate him. I would rather trust the Catholic Church with that decision than you.
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why_me
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That posters problem is just a little different since he or she was not born catholic. I was. I don’t know what the lds church would do if they found a member being baptized into a different faith. But I do think that the lds church would still keep them on the membership roles since they did not ask to have their name removed.
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Religio71
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The Catholic Church is quite clear on him:
From the Code of Canon Law of the Catholic Church:
Can. 1364 §1. Without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 194, §1, n. 2, an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication; in addition, a cleric can be punished with the penalties mentioned in ⇒ can. 1336, §1, nn. 1, 2, and 3.
Yes, the Church is clear on him.
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