Wicca Is Not Really Different Than Witchcraft

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Really.

It’s just splitting hairs, but it really is just another form of Satanism in disguise.

Satan has many disguises and can even wear a pleasant face.
 
Really.

It’s just splitting hairs, but it really is just another form of Satanism in disguise.

Satan has many disguises and can even wear a pleasant face.
Wicca IS witchcraft.
Isn’t that common knowledge?

In every sense it is anti-Holiness.
Its entire focus is against God.
 
Wicca IS witchcraft.
Isn’t that common knowledge?

In every sense it is anti-Holiness.
Its entire focus is against God.
Actually, some Wiccans and Witches say that there is a difference between Wicca and Witchcraft. I am not sure what that difference is though even though I did spend about a year involved in Wicca a few years ago.

But you are right, it is in every sense anti-holiness and its entire focus is against God. So in essence, Wicca/Witchcraft is another form of Satanism.
 
Er… Wicca primarily focuses on nature.

So are any other religions that don’t focus on your God forms of Satanism?
 
For awhile I had an interest in Wicca. I think it was a matter of wanting more control over my life. But you’re right, it’s anti-God.
 
For awhile I had an interest in Wicca. I think it was a matter of wanting more control over my life. But you’re right, it’s anti-God.
Yes, Wicca/Witchcraft is very much anti-God and is condemned by both the Bible and Sacred Tradition:

Leviticus 19:26 RSV "You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not practice augury or witchcraft.

Galatians 5:19 RSV Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness,
Galatians 5:20 RSV idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit,
Galatians 5:21 RSV envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Unfortunately, I cannot currently find any quotes by the early Church fathers about witchcraft.
 
Yes, Wicca/Witchcraft is very much anti-God and is condemned by both the Bible and Sacred Tradition:

Leviticus 19:26 RSV "You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not practice augury or witchcraft.

Galatians 5:19 RSV Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness,
Galatians 5:20 RSV idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit,
Galatians 5:21 RSV envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Unfortunately, I cannot currently find any quotes by the early Church fathers about witchcraft.
Is witchcraft in these references related to a specific pagan religion or is it with reference to the conduct of spells, incantations, or other forms of sourcery? Would Native American Rain Dances be sinful?

There are nature worship aspects of Wicca. Are these sinful because they do not acknowledge God? I worship the God who brings us light and the God who brings us life in the spring and the God who makes the rains come, etc. etc. etc. I know that there is only one God who is responsible for all of these. Wiccans and other pagans do not. Is this a matter of sin or a lack of knowledge? However we must recognize the impact of Wicca in our society and how Wicca is infiltrating our schools and our society under the guise of environmentalism or other -isms. While I do not believe Wiccans worship Satan directly, I believe their unfocussed worship and apeal to those who are rebelious in spirit opens the door for influence of Satan.
 
Yes, Wicca/Witchcraft is very much anti-God and is condemned by both the Bible and Sacred Tradition:

Unfortunately, I cannot currently find any quotes by the early Church fathers about witchcraft.
Will these quotes do for a start?

Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

And, of course, there is the whole story about Simon Magus, aka Simon the Sorceror, in Acts Chapter 8.

The CCC soundly condemns any reliance upon supernatural power or knowledge that comes from any source other than God Himself, even if the that reliance has a good intent.

Divination and magic

**2115 **God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.

2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity.
 
Modern Wicca is an attempt to recreate what these folks would like to believe paganism was.I responded to a thread about visiting a wiccan household;and the same stands true on this one.St.Patrick dealt with it and so can we.However,different cultures have different views as to what witchcraft is.Modern wiccans are basically tree hugging dirt worshippers.As far as interacting with them,perhaps the only ones we have to worry about are the ones who really try to do the ‘evil’ stuff associated with it.There are those who are true seekers of truth.Wicca eventually led me to Catholicism.(believe it or not!) The other faction of so-called wiccans are attention seekers who dress all gothic and say wierd things just to get a rise out of people.These people are basically parrots and pedants. Fasting and lots of rosaries on thier behalf are an effactive tool.Remember-we fight not against flesh & blood,but against (spiritual) powers and principalities.Some of these folks take it very seriously.SOME OF THEM ARE MERELY BARGAIN BASEMENT REBELS!
 
Is witchcraft in these references related to a specific pagan religion or is it with reference to the conduct of spells, incantations, or other forms of sourcery? Would Native American Rain Dances be sinful?

There are nature worship aspects of Wicca. Are these sinful because they do not acknowledge God? I worship the God who brings us light and the God who brings us life in the spring and the God who makes the rains come, etc. etc. etc. I know that there is only one God who is responsible for all of these. Wiccans and other pagans do not. Is this a matter of sin or a lack of knowledge? However we must recognize the impact of Wicca in our society and how Wicca is infiltrating our schools and our society under the guise of environmentalism or other -isms. While I do not believe Wiccans worship Satan directly, I believe their unfocussed worship and apeal to those who are rebelious in spirit opens the door for influence of Satan.
Where wicca goes wrong is that it either worships the creature (nature and natural forces) in place of the Creator, or it falsely attributes the creation of nature to a pantheon of deities rather than the One True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Or it wrongly teaches that man can somehow summon AND control those natural forces - in other words making themselves their own god.
 
Is witchcraft in these references related to a specific pagan religion or is it with reference to the conduct of spells, incantations, or other forms of sourcery? Would Native American Rain Dances be sinful?

There are nature worship aspects of Wicca. Are these sinful because they do not acknowledge God? I worship the God who brings us light and the God who brings us life in the spring and the God who makes the rains come, etc. etc. etc. I know that there is only one God who is responsible for all of these. Wiccans and other pagans do not. Is this a matter of sin or a lack of knowledge? However we must recognize the impact of Wicca in our society and how Wicca is infiltrating our schools and our society under the guise of environmentalism or other -isms. While I do not believe Wiccans worship Satan directly, I believe their unfocussed worship and apeal to those who are rebelious in spirit opens the door for influence of Satan.
I have been studying and practicing various aspects of the occult for most of my life and have never met a wiccan who worshipped Satan. Wicca only connection with witchcraft is what is labeled as “white” witchcraft, as opposed to “black” magic/witchcraft with involves demons and Satan (demonolatry and Satanism). Wiccan/white witches do not the recognize Judeo/Christian God or the advesary Satan. Interestingly, it was mainly these pagan types who were persecuted during the medieval witch hunts when their practices were linked to Satanism by the witch hunters. An institution that tortured folks, mostly women who did’t fit it, and then burned them at the stake, IMO, lost the moral high ground and has little room to condemn the practices of others.
 
One part of the inquiry included the question: Are Native American Rain Dances wrong?

That’s an interesting question and could be responded to with as many angles and thoughts as there are in the number of First Nations (over 500 in the USA). My response here relates to what I have been taught and is not a reflection of the other Tribal Nations.

An Elder and I were asked if we (our particular tribe) had a rain dance. I said no and the other Elder said yes. The person asking us looked bewildered. We both spoke the truth. I said no because I am not aware of a particular rain dance, at least not in the way Hollywood movies depict rain dances. The elder who said yes was also correct because he was not thinking from the Euro-American christian mindset. He explained that we do not often pray FOR something, but rather most of our prayers are in gratitude for the blessings recieved. If our prayer includes a dance concerning the blessings from the West (all weather comes from the west - as you know, or can realize it is so) - that prayer is in gratitude for the rain God has sent us. We even thank God because He will continue to send us rain. God has sustained us thus far and we are grateful for this. But the dance of its own accord does not produce rain.

The dance, the novena, alms, song, or what ever form of prayer one learns is not magic. That is, it does not force or control the hand of God. I am sure there are people of all faiths, including a number of Catholics who feel they have found a prayer formula that can control God and grant certain favors regardless of God’s will. However, this is not a teaching of the Church, nor is it a teaching of my tribal heritage.
 
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