Wife talking to other men online

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A lot of responses seem to be focussing on the age of the OP’s wife. Unless you are suggesting he divorce her because she was “too young”, let’s get off her age and give him some advice that he can follow to try to turn the situation to God and help both of them overcome. I’ve met just as many 30 yr children as I have 17 yr adults, so relating your opinion that he made a mistake isn’t helping him figure anything out.
 
I would appreciate any advice for my situation primarily to help me help her understand how wrong this is and that it needs to stop. Or if I’m wrong and I should be okay with this, then I’m open to advice regarding that also.
Sorry for writing so much.

Thank you very much for your time.
In not only my opinion, it is wrong for your wife to have this type of relationship with another man. See Chapter 1 preview of Dr. Laura Schlessinger’s Ten Stupid Things Couples do to Mess up Their Relationships IMO, your wife is “playing with fire” and if it hurts you and you tell her and she doesn’t do something about it, she is caring more about herself, than her husband.

Careless flirting makes three lives miserable, eventually. She is being misled by a society that cares more about self than commitment to others.

You guys may need some better counselling than you received prior to marriage. You two need to work on YOUR relationship. As all of us married people have to. Things aren’t “done” when you tie the knot. They are just beginning. Here is another thread with some suggested reading.

And some links I found helpful to me:
marriagebuilders.com/index.html
marriagealive.com/ (We did the 10 Great Dates through our parish.)

Peace be with you!
 
A lot of responses seem to be focussing on the age of the OP’s wife. Unless you are suggesting he divorce her because she was “too young”, let’s get off her age and give him some advice that he can follow to try to turn the situation to God and help both of them overcome. I’ve met just as many 30 yr children as I have 17 yr adults, so relating your opinion that he made a mistake isn’t helping him figure anything out.
Not saying he ‘made a mistake,’ but her age has to be taken into account. Yes, there are 30 yr olds who do the same thing, but 17 is still a teenager, who might not have realized the commitment she was making–that is what I said. Not that he made a mistake, but maybe she didn’t realize the magnitude of marriage. It takes serious discernment, and that is where I’d start from…yes, turning to God is paramount, but they also need to get to the core of why she is seeking male attention–it might just be as simple as an age thing, is what I’m saying, and if they talk about it, it can be easily resolved. (Maybe I should have expounded on that in my previous post lol)
 
My advice is to start having children, she’ll probably take her wifely duties more seriously and have more things to do than sit around the house playing video games and being flattered by lonely - and *adulterous *- dolts online.

Also, you need to download something called a “keylogger.” This is a software program that covertly records keystrokes. If she is hiding her chat logs, that is a major indication that she has something to hide - especially given the fact she never did this before. Find out what she is hiding, and disconnect the web cam. If I were you, I’d disconnect the internet altogether and begin marriage counseling.
 
Has the original poster responded to any of these suggestions?
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My advice is to start having children, she’ll probably take her wifely duties more seriously and have more things to do than sit around the house playing video games and being flattered by lonely - and *adulterous *- dolts online.
I couldn’t disagree with this more. 😦 Yes, children would give the OP’s wife something to keep busy with. However, keeping busy is not the only thing here and I would never advocate having children simply to “fix” these marriage problems. There are many things that should be addressed in this marriage such as faithfulness, honesty, and trust…having children isn’t going to change those problems.
 
My advice is to start having children, she’ll probably take her wifely duties more seriously and have more things to do than sit around the house playing video games and being flattered by lonely - and *adulterous *- dolts online.

Also, you need to download something called a “keylogger.” This is a software program that covertly records keystrokes. If she is hiding her chat logs, that is a major indication that she has something to hide - especially given the fact she never did this before. Find out what she is hiding, and disconnect the web cam. If I were you, I’d disconnect the internet altogether and begin marriage counseling.
:ehh: pregnancy doesn’t guarantee stable marriages, these days. Hopefully this was intended as sarcasm.

Doesn’t sound like he needs more proof, but I do agree that they need to focus on each other. And soon!
 
I was one of those who did speak about age.

Yes, they DO need to seek a counselor - the young lady also needs to find something to fill up the hours. They are a young couple with no kids, I cannot imagine that housework or cooking would take up the full 9 hours she is alone in the house all day.

I suggest she fill those hours with school, a job or volunteering - idle hands are the devil’s workshop.
 
There are many things that should be addressed in this marriage such as faithfulness, honesty, and trust…having children isn’t going to change those problems.
I didn’t say it would fix everything, I said it would make her too busy to engage in these occasions for sin. This is true, even if it doesn’t solve the problems leading her to seek those occasions.

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pregnancy doesn’t guarantee stable marriages, these days.
I didn’t say everything would be stable, just that she’d be much busier doing things wives need to be doing. As Paul says, women will be saved through childbearing.
 
Is there a reason why your wife isn’t working? If she’s able to work she should be working. I think it would be very depressing to sit at home and play games online all day. If she doesn’t get a job maybe it would help her to do volunteer work somewhere.
She’s addicted to the internet but worse she’s up to no good with this guy. It doesn’t matter that they are 2000 miles apart. There have been people who’ve broken up their marriages for online relationships further apart than that.
You were on the right track when you shut off the internet. I hope you do it again and don’t turn it back on.
Thank you all for your responses… I wasn’t expecting so many in just 12 or so hours.

I will try to address the biggest points people are focusing on.

Age: Although my wife is 19, (about 20 now) she is extremely mature. She may be immature in certain aspects, like not thinking something is wrong by talking to this other guy, but this results partly from her maturity. She can’t really enjoy chatting with other girls online (especially her age) because they are immature to her and gossip so much etc. I know there are exceptions but this is the general feeling she gets when she tries to make girl friends online.
Maturity: Her father was taken out of her life at a young age and with her many siblings, she was forced to grow up fast and help take care of them (Being one of the oldest of he siblings). She homeschooled through highschool at a very accelerated rate and has spent a lot of her time, even when she was still at her familes house, online, chatting with others since she was about 12. So although she may seem immature from what I wrote above, in other aspects she is not.

Loneliness: We also moved to a different state away from her family. This hasn’t helped her loneliness. Although she had a similar day while still with her family(Staying on the computer most of the time), she definitely had more people around her. But at the same time, they frustrated her and angered her also(in many different aspects), so it wasn’t all happiness while she was at home and she was happy to leave.

Hobbies: She has hobbies and does other things at home other than the computer, but the computer is the large majority of her time. She does different things on there from keeping in touch with family to games, to studying religious things etc etc. It is used for a lot of good in addition to chatting with this guy and others.

Work: I have a really good job with good advancement opportunites right now (while still not fully having my Associates degree) but I work odd late hours. This makes it hard for her to work because if she worked a 9-5 job, I would almost Never see her. Because she would be asleep by the time I got home, and she would be gone by the time I was waking up.
So the only solution there is for her to find a part-time later shift, or for me to change jobs.

Home: She definitely helps around the home a lot! We both share cleaning duties and when we don’t eat out, she cooks 99% of the time between us. I would like to cook more and SHOULD but with my work schedule I only have two nights a week to cook on my days off, and we often eat out on these days.
She is a stay at home wife, primarily due to us planning to have kids before too long and then she’d be a stay at home mom.

Spying: I am not okay with spying and don’t want to do that with things such as a keylogger etc. I feel bad for the things I have already done. This guy who loves her isn’t saying this constantly or anything, 95% of their chat is harmless or game related chat, he just does tell her things as “everytime you say hi, it warms my heart”

Meeting: She wouldn’t meet him alone if he visited, but would visit either with one of her friends or in a public place like starbucks. I just wanted to clarify that, and I still think this would be 100% wrong and the fact that she still says she would be okay meeting him might be one of the things that hurts me the most.

Attention: Although I have my weaknesses in paying attention to her once I am home, I have made an effort to be available to chat online from work and to be there for her once home. I enjoy the computer and my own games also and in the months before this I would come home, we’d hang out for a little while and usually end up on seperate computers for a lot of the night or I’d be playing the XBOX on another room. At the times this was happening, there was almost no objections from her as she was busy playing her games and chatting online. Now that this has all come out she has told me that this is something that bothered her.

Marriage: She originally married me with the hope that we would each bring the other closer to god. Encouraging other etc etc etc, so she is disappointed in our marriage because she feels we have only gotten lazier, and we have. This is also something we are working on right now.

Hopefully that clears some things up.

I still really need help with showing her that it is wrong to continue speaking or interacting with this guy in anyway. She really believes her chat was innocent and nothing was wrong with it (I read logs and disagree with this. She may have changed subjects or turned things into a joke when he complimented her or told her he had feelings for her, but she was accepting of meeting him and didn’t denounce him saying something like he wished he had met her before we got married), and that it’s okay to continue talking to this guy. (Aside from me not liking it, but she feels I’m unjustified in asking her to completely stop)
 
Thanks for the elaboration, that helps to know some of those things. I think you would both see great improvement if you sought out a priest/and or counseling. I think that at this point, she needs someone objective to tell her that flirting/chatting/engaging in encounters with men from online games and websites–is wrong–when married. (also dangerous if married or not) But that’s another topic.:o

I think that your issues can be resolved, but you both need to get to the heart of why she is seeking male attention outside of the marriage. Also–don’t be too naive. She may tell you she doesn’t think this one or that one likes her–or that they are just friends–but she may be thinking something different. The fact that she is angry that you wish her to cut off contact with them, tells me that she feels more than she is willing to admit. Just my thoughts…counseling from someone objective can hopefully help you both…

You are learning more and more about marriage–it’s a never ending journey–some days/weeks/months are great, others…not so much. It can be this way at times. Peaks and valleys, but through it all–God wants you both to be united and happy together. So seek him–maybe start taking time to pray together–and do things outside of the house together. Get back to what brought you both together in the first place. I have been married 16 years–and my dh and I are still learning about each other…so, it’s a journey. You sound very open minded, and she sounds like maybe something is just a bit off. I do think age could have something to do with it–when you talk about her being dealt a lot of things at an early age (I can relate)…it actually can sometimes cause resentment…and she could be acting out things she wished she could act out when she was forced to grow up too fast, so to speak. But, these could be some things counseling will reveal. I think you’ll both benefit from it–good luck to you both.🙂
 
Thanks for clarification.
It sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders. It also sounds like she’s ignoring her conscience. Don’t let her fool you or herself any longer. She knows it’s wrong. Knowing that it bothers you should be enough for her to stop.
You both should not be spending your time on computers when you are home. Take a walk, go to the zoo, rent a movie, go to adoration together, say the rosary, go to a museum, eat out, try to conceive a baby or something! Just stay off the computers.
Have an honest talk with her. When you get a chance visit exceptionalmarriages.com
 
I have a ton in common with your wife. I have a strongly addictive way of playing games and intellectual amusements, I don’t understand men and I had to grow up fast in some ways too. Maybe I can help a little.
When I was 19, my boyfriend (who had his own major knowledge gaps) had a big job to explain to me why spending the night in the bed of a guy friend wasn’t OK with him. I figured, since we all get stranded and I said I don’t want to cheat on my boyfriend and anyway other people will be in the room and besides most of our friends are bisexual, so male/female distinctions don’t matter in my crowd (then), it’s not a sexual thing so it ought to be OK. I had no idea of two facts:
When a man is attracted to a woman his imagination is stronger than every other source of information put together and he must be avoided, not even accidentally tempted. Saying, “I need to crash, please don’t touch me, I have a boyfriend” isn’t going to unsex him.
Your wife may be unaware of this too. Tell her.
Even if nothing is physically happening, a relationship can be destroyed if someone, whom one of the pair knows, is trying to come between them. It causes a feeling of tension and insecurity. It’s like he’s always there. Ask if she understands this.
People who were studying, taking care of siblings, and planning weddings weren’t spending that time getting socialized into mainstream society and don’t always know what they are expected to. Many become big game people from what I’ve seen because they want to live in a world they understand, but that just reinforces a belief that the world works in a way it really doesn’t work.
 
One comment no one has brought up, which I hope the OP will share with his wife. What is a man doing on line for 10-12 hours a day playing video games? What kind of person is this? Why doesn’t he have a job? Could he have some disability or mental illness? Could he be in jail or house arrest? I ask because sometimes people who are addicted to the internet, and found on-line love get obsessed with their object of attention. Even if this love is not reciprocated. I would warn your wife that she doesn’t know this guy, and that he might be crazy or dangerous. Her idea of meeting him in Starbucks could turn into an abduction. If she gets closer to him, and then suddenly stops all contact he could become upset and come after her. I don’t want to scare her, but at the same time, just as it is not right or normal for her (or you for that matter ) to spend so much time on line. It is even more abnormal for this guy to be spending so much time on line, and professing his love to a married woman who he never met. This guy is not right in the head, and it is dangerous for your wife to be involved with him, even in a chat! :eek:
 
One comment no one has brought up, which I hope the OP will share with his wife. What is a man doing on line for 10-12 hours a day playing video games? What kind of person is this? Why doesn’t he have a job? Could he have some disability or mental illness? Could he be in jail or house arrest? I ask because sometimes people who are addicted to the internet, and found on-line love get obsessed with their object of attention. Even if this love is not reciprocated. I would warn your wife that she doesn’t know this guy, and that he might be crazy or dangerous. Her idea of meeting him in Starbucks could turn into an abduction. If she gets closer to him, and then suddenly stops all contact he could become upset and come after her. I don’t want to scare her, but at the same time, just as it is not right or normal for her (or you for that matter ) to spend so much time on line. It is even more abnormal for this guy to be spending so much time on line, and professing his love to a married woman who he never met. This guy is not right in the head, and it is dangerous for your wife to be involved with him, even in a chat! :eek:
Anon, maybe it would be a good idea for YOU to get online and tell him a thing or two.:eek:
 
AnonUser123 - I didn’t read all the other replies to your post, only your 2. All I have to offer is a similar situation. My friend was chatting w/ a woman and her husband on a music board. It got to the point where he was mostly talking to her, emailing her, etc. I don’t know if he caused the riff in her marriage or not, but I’m sure he capitalized on it and “was there for her”. Now they’re married.

If this other guy is “in love with” your wife and you’re having other problems, rest assured he’s not supporting your marriage. Your wife needs to make a decision. What she’s doing is NOT appropriate behavior. If she wants you both to increase your closeness to God, having another man who “loves her” in the picture isn’t going to help.

If she’s got hours and hours of free-time to play games w/ this guy and chat with him, it sounds like she needs more to do. She can volunteer or possibly even start her own business - that way she can be home when you are.

Good luck my friend!
 
Anon, I have been the wife talking to other men. The attention and even the clandestine aspect of it was exciting. I believed I was in love with this man. Though, I had never met him in real life, not once. And there was a lot about him that I didn’t know.

At the time, I had a lot of unexpressed anger towards my husband. There were times where I hated him, and couldn’t stand the fact that he was in the same room with me, while at the same time, I didn’t want to hurt him.

This whole thing brought out all that I had kept bottled up inside of me. Years worth of saving up things I had never said. Because I believed I loved this other man, I thought I had a place to go, a person to be with, a person who loved me, and so I was at times very clear and probably brutal in the things I said to my husband.

Amazingly, my husband stayed with me. Kept telling me he loved me. But he would also ask me if I wanted him to leave, and I would tell him no because I didn’t want to hurt him.

It took nearly three years for me to realize that I was in a fantasy land. This man on the internet, never really wanted to meet me. I think he just liked having a woman telling him nice and wonderful things. And I am sure that he had more than one woman, a string of them, that he was giving this sort of attention to. I knew this, and didn’t care. I was doing “the grass is greener on the other side”, thinking that I could fly somewhere else, leave the things behind that I just didn’t want to deal with.

I still have feelings for this man, though, not like I do for my husband. My husband is real. He is here, with me, day after day, through thick and thin. The last time he asked me if I wanted a divorce, I told him no, that all I wanted, all I needed, was for someone to love me.

Your wife needs professional counseling, something that, looking back, I wish I had recognized and done. And together you need couples counseling. Though this is hard, and hurtful, it is possible to make it through.

The “something to do” may help, but probably not. At the time, I was working full time and taking care of a family. Boredom had nothing to do with it.
 
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