Any Pre-Vatican II nun who served as the principle at just about any Catholic school before the 60’s. Everyone of them took care of all of the things you mention. They didn’t desire “power” or “equality” or any of the other wants of today’s “Churchy women”. They didn’t complain, they did it from a love of God.
FYI - We can doubt the stories we hear here all we want, but naming parishes is not allowed, at leasy in the public forum. Canon Law is quite clear on this issue, anyway. Something is fishy with this story. It makes no more sense than if someone said they had a Methodist diocesan bishop or a mackeral for a priest. There is no office of deaconess in the Catholic Church. Women can not, as a matter of the faith, be ordained.
Actually, you bring up one point that I think speaks for having no girl altar servers. You speak rightly about the role of men. However, how many today do not have the benefit of a father who is spiritual head? The Church has to not only consider how things should be, but how they are. The Church does respond pastoral to the culture. Perhaps today, the most pastoral role would be to allow all male altar servers to make it easier for those boys who lack a strong male role model.
This poor lady was living in a fantasy world.
You make a good point. The only problem I see is that someone needs to be with Father every time he’s with those boys and I don’t see too many fathers stepping up to the plate to help. Moms are forced to step in and take up the slack. That’s the reality in these times.
I’m convinced it is. But it would take a lot of quotes from a book by author Leon J. Podles (The Church Impotent ‚ The Feminization of Christianity to convince you.
I’m a student. I can do lots of quotes. However, one quote would do for starters. Another poster said they see this with their own eyes in their parish. I’m sure they could describe what they see.
You are basing your conclusion on a single author’s point of view? All of us have read Lenin’s Communist Manifesto, but that doesn’t mean that we take it seriously.
Well said. If people would spend a fraction of their energy reforming the world and perfecting themselves as they do in fretting if the gates of hell will prevail against the Church, what a paradise we would live in.
You cannot say any pre-Vatican II nuns as I know pre-Vatican II nuns personally, who served as principles and some who still do, that would disagree with you. Stateing all pre-Vatican II nuns were of the same mind is quite an assumption.
Nothing in my post suggested I believe this is the only way to be actively involved. I was discussing a particular way in my post. However, those with a vivid imagination can jump to whatever conclusions they choose in relation to what I believe if that’s what they choose to do.
I find it funny that you jump on someone who recalls a female deacon in a Church she attended enough to want “find out” where. For what purpose? To prove the person that said wrong, so you can be right? or To find out, yes, indeed there is a female deacon, so you can put your Vatican Police badge on? Who are you? A mere mortal like everyone else…not better, not worse, and certainly not perfect.
actually, on threads like this, the crystal ball comes out and some can actually mind meld with you and read your thoughts.
I’ll make sure that all of the women in my parish realize that being a “Churchy Woman” is a negative thing and that they shouldn’t volunteer any more of their time. Maybe we can have a special corner in which to sit so we only speak to other women and the men are not disturbed. Wait a minute, I think maybe the crying room would be a perfect place for all of we females then there would be total silence and we would not be seen or heard.
The problem with sitting in the crying room, is you can’t hear a word of the Mass. But then if your a woman, perhaps you don’t need to.I’ll make sure that all of the women in my parish realize that being a “Churchy Woman” is a negative thing and that they shouldn’t volunteer any more of their time. Maybe we can have a special corner in which to sit so we only speak to other women and the men are not disturbed. Wait a minute, I think maybe the crying room would be a perfect place for all of we females then there would be total silence and we would not be seen or heard.
We have a speaker in our crying room, so if we kick all of the babies out, we could hear, LOL!The problem with sitting in the crying room, is you can’t hear a word of the Mass. But then if your a woman, perhaps you don’t need to.
Sounds like a plan. Since we have scared all the “men” away…maybe they will step up to the plate and volunteer their time.I’ll make sure that all of the women in my parish realize that being a “Churchy Woman” is a negative thing and that they shouldn’t volunteer any more of their time. Maybe we can have a special corner in which to sit so we only speak to other women and the men are not disturbed. Wait a minute, I think maybe the crying room would be a perfect place for all of we females then there would be total silence and we would not be seen or heard.
Ah! That explains it! As crystal balls are notoriously inaccurate!
If people would spend a fraction of the energy the spend on attempting to perfect and reform others on perfecting and performing themselves, perhaps the milk of human kindness wouldn’t be in such short supply.
