Will Catholics support Romney?

[Jerusha]

At least I won’t be concerned with wearing my Rosary when Romney is in office.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. I went searching, and found what is probably the most authoritative source for this audience on the subject.

Utah Mormons generally reject all usage of the Holy Cross as a Christian symbol. The Mormon church teaches that the atonement of Christ took place, not primarily on the Cross, but rather in the Garden of Gethsamene the night before His crucifixion. The LDS Bible Dictionary entry for “Atonement” speaks of the shedding of Our Lord’s blood as having taken place there; His subsequent death on the Cross the following day is relegated to a seemingly secondary place. There is no entry for “Cross” in the LDS Bible Dictionary, and its cursory article on “crucifixion” makes no mention whatsoever of this salvific event having any role in His Atonement.

orthodoxwiki.org/Mormonism

They see the cross as offensive, and some even compare it to the gun that killed Joseph Smith.

He has to or he won’t get elected. Remember John Kennedy.

Waiting…It may be a very long wait.

 

[batman1973]

Sure. Romney, as a Bishop in the LDS church, pressured a woman who was unmarried and pregnant, to give up her baby for adoption. dailyagenda.org/2012/01/12/romney-told-unwed-pregnant-mom-give-up-your-baby-for-adoption-or-be-excommunicate/ We are talking about hellfire and brimstone here. LDS culture is very unforgiving of sexual transgressions. Read this: filestube.com/m/miracle+of+forgiveness+pdf Deep within LDS culture, a woman who gets in a difficult situation would often rather get an abortion than suffer public humiliation. Finally, there is an elitist core within Mormonism that strongly subscribes to prosperity theology. See the forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=664431 . Romney would rather see tax cuts for his rich friends, than help a young unwed mother see her child graduate from college.

Texas, you are in quite a difficult situation. :slapfight: Apparently, your agreement with the LDS political perspective was what led you into the LDS church.

wait, you’d vote for a president who supports gay “rights”, and abortion, than vote for a president who has some what of a moral core just because he’s Mormon? Wow.

 

[Telstar]

Romney was my LAST choice in the primaries, but the Republican Platform is Pro-Life, so Romney will have to tone down his less-than-obama’s pro-choice stance. The democratic platform is to allow widespread abortion and you have seen how the democrats tried to force the Catholic Church into horrible positions.

No, the ONLY choice for Catholics is a Republican

That’s why I’m so completely torn. I was raised in a Democratic household. When I was a kid, I remember going to political rallies for JFK with my parents, when he was running for president (yeah, I’m that old ). They both served on the Democratic Committee in my home town. But, ever since Ronald Reagan, I’ve found myself consistently leaning more to the Republican side. When I started to realize that the Democrats always seemed to be on the opposite side of issues than I was, I just couldn’t bring myself to vote for any of them, anymore. So, this whole thing has me in a position I hoped I would never see.

When I was a Glenn Beck “Insider”, I was always very vocal on his message boards whenever he would bring up the subject of Romney, and said he might be leaning towards voting for him, the last time around. I’d like to think that some of my posts might have influenced his opinion of Romney (he used to read the boards a lot, years ago), by reminding him of what Romney had done in MA that were against his own principles. If I have to vote for him to get Obama out of office, I’m not so sure I’ll really be making a better choice at all.

When Romney first took office in MA, he thought he could just change a law by signing his name to a piece of paper and declaring it done, just like he did as the CEO of a business. In his first week of office he did just that, and had everyone on both sides of the aisle up in arms at his audacity to try an make an end run around the state Senate and the House of Representatives (not to mention the voters), to try to change an existing law with the stroke of a pen. It was an arrogant move that he thought he had the power to do. He had no idea that a governor just didn’t have that kind of power. He found out pretty quickly that he couldn’t get away with it. Even the Republicans ended up criticizing him mercilessly for that major blunder, and he made a lot of enemies on both sides. So, his political knowledge and experience is almost non-existent. He didn’t even finish his whole term as governor. He talks a good game, but when you come right down to it, he hasn’t got a clue how government really works. It could be a very dangerous situation to have him in the Oval Office with the whole country in his hands.

God help us all.

 

[FabiusMaximus]

Will Catholics support Romney considering his flip-flop on abortion and homosexuality, and also in light of the very negative way that the Mormon leadership and Joe Smith have portrayed us to their membership through out their short history? Will Catholics support him if he is the only alternative to Obama?

Given that Mitt Romney actually states that he is against both abortion and gay marriage (positions that he has consistently espoused for years now), and that Obama is constantly avoiding both questions like the plague, then I should hope that Catholics would support Romney over Obama.

Although both are pitiful presidential candidates.

 

[garyo49]

Given that Mitt Romney actually states that he is against both abortion and gay marriage (positions that he has consistently espoused for years now), and that Obama is constantly avoiding both questions like the plague, then I should hope that Catholics would support Romney over Obama.

Although both are pitiful presidential candidates.

You are wrong when you state that Mitt Romneys stance on gay rights and abortion has been consistant for a long time. When he was running against Ted Kennedy in 1994 he told voters that he had become “pro choice”, and when he was governor he worked closely with gay rights activists in promoting their agenda. That is a fact.

 

[aschaefer]

I am very pro-life, so Obama’s support of abortion disgusts me. I am also opposed to the death penalty. I am opposed to racism in any form, so the racism constantly displayed by Obama disgusts me. I am opposed to religious bigotry, so Obama’s conduct towards Christians is frightening . I am opposed to war, except under particular circumstances. I am opposed to organized tax-evasion schemes, so the increased Tax Code by Obama is horrible. I am in support of national health insurance, but the unconstitutional Obamacare is a frightening glance into Big Brother controlling everything and forcing us to do whatever IT thinks we should do. I am in support of religious freedom. I am in support of educational opportunity. I am opposed to homophobic bigotry, though I follow totally the CATHOLIC CATECHISM. I am in support of those who have a good understanding of the Islamic mind, but not someone who favors it over Christ, so Obama is out of the question.

Obama is the worst candidate. And, frankly, any Catholic who votes for Obama should be excommunicated.

I agree. Obama’s fine with abortion, gay marriage, taking away our religious freedom. No TRUE Catholic should vote for Obama.

 

[Izdaari]

The issues on which I vehemently oppose Obama have a lot more to do with economic policy and the size and scope of government than they do with social issues. But on those grounds, I still think he’s gotta go and that Romney will be a much better president. He at least understands how capitalism works and approves of it, neither of which is true of Obama. And I do not want to give Obama four more years to consolidate the changes he’s made.

 

[Megan7]

Anybody but Obama.

 

[Megan7]

Do Catholics in America realise what Obama is doing in the world? He is blackmailing the Philippines, for example, to force them to allow abortion, homosexual unions or lose funding. He is the Abortion supremo - one of his first acts when he got into power was to bring in abortion up to birth - sucking out the brains of babies in a new grotesque attack on the innocent unborn. What does this monster have to do for Americans to wake up to how evil he is? His monstrosity is cloaked in pretence at being Christian - when he is nothing of the kind. He only thinly disguises his Muslim background; with the influx of Muslims into the States, as well as UK - just see how France is suffering with their huge population of Muslims - then see what will happen to America if Obama gets in again. Of course, he will get some people voting for him because he hides behind his ethnicity. Please, America, see through this monster and DO NOT ALLOW HIM BACK INTO OFFICE!!!

God Bless you for seeing the truth!

Thank you for your post! I agree with you!

Cardinal Burke has said many times that the Democratic party is the
party of the Culture of Death!
And from everything he has said, it would seem that it is a SIN to vote for the current POTUS.

I do not understand how a Catholic could vote for the POTUS!:bighanky:

Pax,

Megan

 

[CMatt25]

You are Christian and a Catholic. Have you heard of the Catholic five non-negotionables. Don’t vote for a candidate that supports, abortion, gay marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, euthenasia, human cloning.

Have you heard Catholic teaching is non partisan and the bishops say flatly in their citizenship guide that they do “not offer a voters guide, scorecard of issues, or direction on how to vote.”

usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-04/catholic-politics-election/50660710/1

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=604357

I know politically conservative Catholics might try to argue due to tax exempt status, they can’t come out and directly say to vote for Romney. However surely if the truth was a Catholic had to, the Church would not withhold the truth just to avoid taxes.

 

[CMatt25]

you can always write his name in the place that accomodates such. My father used to do this whenever he did not like the choices presented.

You can but where I live the last I understood was write-ins had to have registered as a write-in candidate with the election board for votes for them to be counted. So it might depend on a state’s election laws.

Btw I love your screen name. Peace.

 

[CMatt25]

I am pro-life. I am opposed to the death penalty. I am opposed to racism in any form. I am opposed to religious bigotry. I am opposed to war, except under particular circumstances. I am opposed to organized tax-evasion schemes. I am in support of national health insurance. I am in support of religious freedom. I am in support of educational opportunity. I am opposed to homophobic bigotry. I am opposed to abortion, but am in support of those women who, in difficult circumstances, choose to give birth. I am in support of those who have a good understanding of the Islamic mind.

Obama is the best, but not perfect, candidate.

Excellent post. If we seek perfection in political candidates on earth, we’re going to always come up short. God bless and peace.

 

[Megan7]

I agree. Obama’s fine with abortion, gay marriage, taking away our religious freedom. No TRUE Catholic should vote for Obama.

It is morally wrong for a Catholic or a Christian to vote for more of the same!

Knowing what we know!

Not only has the current POTUS been the most anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti Constitution President we have ever had

He has been war hungry beyond belief & taking away lots of our freedoms along the way!

And once he does not have to worry about a re election he will go full speed ahead with his agenda, and our country will be finished!!

As Catholics, as Christians, the Republican candidate will be the lesser of two evils, and at least Mitt Romney has real business experience.

George Soros has used his wealth to fund agencies with Catholic names
(only Catholic in name/because they support abortion & gay rights,etc.)
in them to further his agenda to convince Catholics to vote for the Democratic candidate.

He even had a Summit to make sure they could figure out how to get Obama elected the first time around, key words to say, going after the values voter, etc.

A Catholic & or Christian should NOT vote for Obama, not just because of what he will end up doing/finishing our country, but also how he is hurting Catholic countries like the Phillipines to further his culture of death agenda!

Remember, it was Obama who said that if his daughter got pregnant, he would
not “punish” her with making her have the baby, but instead she could get an abortion! If this is what he thinks is ok for his own daughter, we are doomed!

PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!

Please do NOT leave or write in your candidate, because that will be a vote for Obama.

Please vote for the Republican party, it will be the lesser of two evils! Please vote!

Our religious freedom, our faith, our rights, our financial system will be doomed under another 4 years of the same!

Please pray about this! It is crucial to our faith, to our future!

So much is at stake!

We are suppoed to be the Church Militant!

God Bless,

Pax,

Megan

 

[stephe1987]

National health insurance will end up being very expensive and people will not get the health care they need. Then the government will get to choose who lives (gets health care) and who dies (no health care). Healthy people will live; people who are old, have a terminal illness, or disabled will be left to die or be euthanized against their own will and/or their family’s will. This has been done before. Those who are ignorant of history, are doomed to repeat it.

Racism is of course wrong, but the biggest threat to African Americans right now is honestly other African Americans. I know of a young black man who was recently shot and killed just standing outside, by a drive-by gang. He was not bothering anyone and was not a member of a gang. These poor souls kill each other on a daily basis and it’s not on the news. But one rare event where a person of another race kills a black person and it’s all over the news.

Religious freedom is under threat by big government because they decide what people should do and believe.

Don’t be fooled! Learn from history!

And I don’t know who “Catholics” will vote for. Some people call themselves Catholic but do not follow Church teaching. Some people vote for their party and will not consider any other party. Some people will not vote for a Mormon simply because Mormonism isn’t considered Christian by the most Christian denominations.

 

[sallybutler]

Some people will not vote for a Mormon because the Mormon church is pro-choice.

 

[GRATEFULONEjim]

If Catholics are true to their faith they will vote for Romney. There is no way that any Catholic that puts God first in their lives and truly lives their faith, as we are called to do, can vote for President Obama. Any Catholic that votes for President Obama is only fooling themselves by calling themselves Catholic. They are protestant wannabe’s masquerading as Catholics. Catholics true to there faith need to stand together now and point these imposters of the faith out. Yes, there will be some toes stepped on. Yes, there may be some hard feelings, but did Jesus shy away from living the faith His Father wanted Him to? Did Jesus step on some toes? You bet He did! It’s time for the Catholics to take their faith back from the ravages of the liberal/secular/protestant infiltrators who want a watered down version that allows them in good conscience to pick and choose what teachings they wish to follow. We need good homilies from the priests on this and all diocese to take notice. It may have a huge impact on the Church. Many may leave, but the Church will be better off for it. I believe this infiltration is the attack on the Church that has been foretold.

 

[ZoeyBdo]

I’m sorry, but I thought you had to be eligible to run for president?

Since that is the case, I’ll be voting for the only US Citizen running. That would be Romney.

I really didn’t think that the Kenyan-born Indonesian man masquerading as president was even an option!

 

[ByzCathCantor]

One of the most significant ways in which Catholics differ from members of most other Christian denominations (Orthodox excluded, of course) is that we are called to regularly examine our conscience and ensure that we are reconciled with God as frequently as needed.

Suggest we exercise this developed skill in our civic lives. The choice for President will be abundantly clear to those who do so with honesty and faithfully to their true Catholic values.

We pray regularly for our civil authorities, and should also pray that worthy individuals of moral conviction step forward willing and graced to serve in such an important and daunting role.

 

[mary_bobo]

If Catholics are true to their faith they will vote for Romney. There is no way that any Catholic that puts God first in their lives and truly lives their faith, as we are called to do, can vote for President Obama. Any Catholic that votes for President Obama is only fooling themselves by calling themselves Catholic. They are protestant wannabe’s masquerading as Catholics. Catholics true to there faith need to stand together now and point these imposters of the faith out. Yes, there will be some toes stepped on. Yes, there may be some hard feelings, but did Jesus shy away from living the faith His Father wanted Him to? Did Jesus step on some toes? You bet He did! It’s time for the Catholics to take their faith back from the ravages of the liberal/secular/protestant infiltrators who want a watered down version that allows them in good conscience to pick and choose what teachings they wish to follow. We need good homilies from the priests on this and all diocese to take notice. It may have a huge impact on the Church. Many may leave, but the Church will be better off for it. I believe this infiltration is the attack on the Church that has been foretold.

You must have missed the great number of posts rationalizing how a person can vote for a man who is in favor of all of the non-negotiables our Church has pointed out, and still be good Catholics. Some of them are quite inventive.

 

[CRUE_CAB]

Given that Mitt Romney actually states that he is against both abortion and gay marriage (positions that he has consistently espoused for years now), and that Obama is constantly avoiding both questions like the plague, then I should hope that Catholics would support Romney over Obama.

Although both are pitiful presidential candidates.

With the recinding of “Dont ask dont tell” I dont think its a stretch that Obama is Pro Gay marriage.