Will circular reasoning prevail if the US has a federal gay marriage definition…?

[ManOnFire]

Will schools be allowed to teach that homosexuality is an equal option for all students against parents’ wishes? What would prevent schools from teaching students that they could experiment with both genders? Wait. One might think that this would be wrong and you will teach your child otherwise. But are you allowed to express your displeasure if your child were to pursue a homosexual relationship if the Law says gay marriage is equal? “Your existing beliefs” would now become the problem, would they not? Would teaching against gay marriage be legally wrong, or considered to be child abuse, if gay marriage is deemed to be equal? Since theft is against the law, one would be a poor parent if one taught them to steal. How would teaching kids to oppose gay marriage law be different than teaching them to oppose any other law?

 

[JimG]

Your existing beliefs would be, and probably already are, considered hate speech within the public school system.

 

[kimmielittle]

Your existing beliefs would be, and probably already are, considered hate speech within the public school system.

Yeppers!!

 

[markomalley]

Will schools be allowed to teach that homosexuality is an equal option for all students against parents’ wishes? What would prevent schools from teaching students that they could experiment with both genders? Wait. One might think that this would be wrong and you will teach your child otherwise. But are you allowed to express your displeasure if your child were to pursue a homosexual relationship if the Law says gay marriage is equal? “Your existing beliefs” would now become the problem, would they not? Would teaching against gay marriage be legally wrong, or considered to be child abuse, if gay marriage is deemed to be equal? Since theft is against the law, one would be a poor parent if one taught them to steal. How would teaching kids to oppose gay marriage law be different than teaching them to oppose any other law?

Schools are already teaching that. Opposition to the popular belief is already deemed a hate crime in schools.

Geez, get out of the 20th century, wouldja???

 

[Rence]

You’d probably avoid all of these things you’re concerned about if you sent your child to a Catholic school, or home schooled. Even if you send your child to a Catholic school, you must make sure the curriculum is correct.

 

[ManOnFire]

Your existing beliefs would be, and probably already are, considered hate speech within the public school system.

What beliefs? I just asked questions.

Are people assuming that 100% of homosexuality is involuntary? Hypothetically, I could have just started a relationship with my best male friend from high school and skipped all the heartache of trying to figure out women if I had been taught it was the same, not that I would have with what I was taught, but then these kids are not taught the same. Do you see my point?

 

[JimG]

What beliefs? I just asked questions.

I was just addressing your point that said, “Your existing beliefs” would now become the problem, would they not?" and pretty much agreeing with it. I don’t know for sure, but I expect that many schools already have either an unspoken or an explicit teaching that homosexual relations and homosexual marriage present no moral problems. By implication, Christian values must be wrong.

Are people assuming that 100% of homosexuality is involuntary? Hypothetically, I could have just started a relationship with my best male friend from high school and skipped all the heartache of trying to figure out women

You may be onto something here. Perhaps that’s part of the reason for the perceived increase in homosexual couplings. It’s just too much trouble dealing with the opposite sex!

 

[ManOnFire]

I was just addressing your point that said, “Your existing beliefs” would now become the problem, would they not?" and pretty much agreeing with it. I don’t know for sure, but I expect that many schools already have either an unspoken or an explicit teaching that homosexual relations and homosexual marriage present no moral problems. By implication, Christian values must be wrong. I’m curious about the letter of the law if a federal definiton is passed. Would the letter of a federal law be in place, yet not enforced in the beginning, until society has been desensitized by the unelected media? For the longest time I thought certain activities were legal in Holland until someone told me that they are still technically illegal, just not enforced.

You may be onto something here. Perhaps that’s part of the reason for the perceived increase in homosexual couplings. It’s just too much trouble dealing with the opposite sex! This topic is a double-edged sword. We want compassion for those who fear rejection by the opposite sex and are too afraid to take the chance to get one’s feelings crushed by “the other team.”. I got dumped so many times that I eventually got good at it. It taught me humility and humanity instead of egocentrism. I realized that getting dumped was just a rite of passage and that I would recover. It would have been easier to fear and blame the “other group” for disappointing my expectations so many times, but I decided to struggle through all the disapointment on my quest to find the right one.

On the other side of the sword there are staunch activists, some of whom see this as a fight and are willing to take steps to seize control.

Will a federal marriage definition create a legal excuse for voluntary homosexuals to be intolerant? Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[JimG]

Will a federal marriage definition create a legal excuse for voluntary homosexuals to be intolerant? Thanks for your thoughts.

I’m not sure. It’s getting to late in the evening to think on such matters. I’m thinking–probably so. Some homosexuals–such as members of the group ACT-UP are pretty intolerant already. But others aren’t. And some heterosexuals are pretty intolerant.

There is after all, a divide which cannot be bridged. Gays see same-sex sexual activity as morally good; Christians see it as morally evil. Yet there are already laws which put ‘sexual orientation’ into the same protected-class category as skin color. So probably a law defining marriage to include same sex couples would result in intolerance of those who view such actions as sinful.