Will Protestants go through purgatory?

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Christian_Unity said:
I didn’t know Catholic Fundamentalism existed. When someone uses the words of objective fact in regards to a theological distinctive, then who know a Fundamentialistic mindset has set in. Spiritual truth is based on faith and not objective fact. Until you actually go to purgatory, that particular Catholic distinctive is one of faith and not of fact. Just because you believe in purgatory doesn’t mean that it is true.
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This is, with apologies, the most bizarre response I have ever encountered. Let me ask you, do you believe there will be a judgment at death (we call it the “Particular Judgment”) and then a judgment of all souls at the end of physical time? What does “Christian Unity” look like to you? Unitarianism?
 
JRRTFAN said:
This is, with apologies, the most bizarre response I have ever encountered. Let me ask you, do you believe there will be a judgment at death (we call it the “Particular Judgment”) and then a judgment of all souls at the end of physical time? What does “Christian Unity” look like to you? Unitarianism?
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Sometimes it helps if you put yourself in the other person’s shoes. I believe in Christian Unity within orthodoxy (historic creeds). My beliefs on purgatory do make me appear bizarre on a Catholic Forum site. Yet, if you posted on a Protestant Forum site, your postings on purgatory would make you look bizarre.The official Catholic view according to the CCC is much more universal and accepting with non-Christian religions than my personal beliefs on that issue. 🙂
 
Christian_Unity said:
Pretty fun stuff. In Heaven, I really don’t believe Christians will be divided between Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox communities. I still plan to skip purgatory. Which doctrines really matter in this divided temporal world of Christendom? We share the historic ecumenical creeds like the Apostles and Nicene Creeds. Didn’t the Pope say that Luther was right in regards to Faith alone a few years back? Yep… I do believe in Christian Unity.
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it would be great if you had read the popes comment in its context, to read out of context is to read your personal views into the text, that is called twisting.
I would advise you go back and read what the pope did say!
 
Christian_Unity said:
You guys have to understand how I think as a Protestant Christian. I believe that nobody is worthy to go to Heaven on our own merit. It is my understanding that both Catholics and Protestants are enabled to do good works through Christ. We simply believe differently that our works done in Christ as it is applied for justification. So, I get confused how you guys believe non-Christians can do good works on their own without being united to Christ and still enter Heaven. I would like to know the official Catholic Answer on this one. Can someone merit Heaven on their own good works apart from Christ working in them? It almost like saying that Christ did not have to enter this world to live and die, since people can merit Heaven on their own good works. But, help me make sure that I understand what you are actually saying.
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st paul puts the teaching best rm 2:12-18
 
JonNC said:
Curiosly, as a Lutheran, I recognize that we go through purgation. I just don’t see Purgatory as a separate state/place where this occurs. IOW, I see it as an instant event, purged by the loving grace our our Savior, at the moment of death.

A long, but worthy read on the broader topic is found in the Lutheran - Catholic document.
usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/dialogue-with-others/ecumenical/lutheran/hope-eternal-life.cfm

A brief discussion of the document, be Dr. Micheal Root, a participant on the Lutheran side before becoming Catholic is here:
mainstreambaptist.blogspot.com/2012/06/ecumenical-dialogue-on-hope-of-eternal.html

From the prior, in part:

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i think the papal encyclical “in hope we are saved” explained purgatory in the lines on the above document!
 
lonelypetunia said:
If that were true I’d be converting… 😃
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hahaha, maybe instead catholics will be listening to the pope for the said centuries and you will be very bored especially if u dont understand the language d pope speaks! Atlest mr benny speaks English.
 
Taestron said:
This thread reminded me of a question I asked years ago in a theology class I had in college. The topic was various views of the afterlife (specifically hell), and we were reading about Purgatory (of which none of us Protestants had much of an understanding - luckily we were reading a book written by a Catholic:thumbsup:). At the time I asked the question whether or not the Catholic Church could ever use the doctrine of Purgatory as an ecumenical outreach to their separated brethren. And so I ask again. Are there any theologians out there using Purgatory in this way? If so, have they written any books that I could read?
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Try reading Purgatory Explained by Rev. Fr. F. X. Schouppe, S.J.
 
Ubenedictus said:
hahaha, maybe instead catholics will be listening to the pope for the said centuries and you will be very bored especially if u dont understand the language d pope speaks! Atlest mr benny speaks English.
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My post was meant in good humor… I did not mean to offend anyone.

There are those of us who do not believe in papal infallibility.
 
lonelypetunia said:
My post was meant in good humor… I did not mean to offend anyone.

There are those of us who do not believe in papal infallibility.
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and so was mine, i wasn’t even hinting papal infallibility, it was jokingly said that purgatory for protestant will be pst benny i simply said maybe purgatory for catholic will be the pope.
I didn’t think i was offending anyone nor was i offended by your post.
 
MarkHilston25 said:
One must be free mortal sin to enter purgatory. Which is why we Catholics make use of the Sacrament of Penance instituted by Christ for the forgiveness of mortal sin, sin that literally kills the soul,which without the Sacrament cannot be forgiven. I think Jesus knew what he was doing. I’m not God so I don’t know for sure but my best guess would be no. Pray for Protestants so they may receive the Sacraments. I don’t know what modern Catholic teaching on our separated brethren is. But I know for us Catholics we must be in a state of sanctifying grace to enter paradise. Protestants don’t believe in sacramental penance and forgiveness. I hope I didn’t offend anybody. I’m no theologian. Just my best educated guess.
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For we cannot meet God face to face without being completely purified. 👍

Jesus’ grace is to wipe off our sin in forgiveness when we repent. We still have to go through the fire of purification for the effect of the sin. I was thinking when the Bible speaks about the purification of gold through the refiner’s fire. Even though it is gold, it still needs to be purified through the refiner’s fire until it will become pure gold. I see ourselves being purified by the fire of purgatory and become as white as snow to finally meet the God our Creator face to face.
"Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. (Isaiah 1:18)
 
Ubenedictus said:
and so was mine, i wasn’t even hinting papal infallibility, it was jokingly said that purgatory for protestant will be pst benny i simply said maybe purgatory for catholic will be the pope.
I didn’t think i was offending anyone nor was i offended by your post.
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I’m certainly not bored with our Pope. I could listen to him (or read what he has written) for hours on end. By the way, would you mind not using “texting language” on this forum. It makes it really difficult to follow you. Proper english and punctuation makes communication much easier. 👍
 
SteveVH said:
I’m certainly not bored with our Pope. I could listen to him (or read what he has written) for hours on end. By the way, would you mind not using “texting language” on this forum. It makes it really difficult to follow you. Proper english and punctuation makes communication much easier. 👍
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i bet you will be if there was no latin translation.
 
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