Will someone explain Protestantism to me?

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sandmountainsli said:
The Jews do not accept those books as OT canon, why should Luther or any Christian?
The Jews are the authority concerning what is or is not their scripture.
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That was done in A.D. 90, and it was not considered an infallible translation. The books were removed (and some words were changed) because they did not accept Christ as the Messiah and wanted their Scriptures to teach as such.

By the way, Martin Luther also added words to the Bible (i.e. “alone” so that he could preach sola fide). No Pope has the power to do either that or get rid of 7 books.

The Catholic Church listed the official canon of the Bible in the 300’s or 400’s (not clear on the exact date at the present moment) I’m not speaking from bias either, my evangelical Protestant boyfriend who is a history expert confirmed this fact for me. Therefore, if you believe the Church is corrupt, how can you know if you’re reading the “correct” New Testament?
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Hi,
Coming Home to me means physically dying and being home in heaven with my Lord and Savior:thumbsup: 😃

That is my real home this life Im just passin through:thumbsup:
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This earthly life and the next are important. Focus young jedi!
 
Syele said:
what bashing was colliric responding to? Besides I don’t think Jesus ever said “Do unto others as they did to you first.”
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none.

I’m just not afraid to say my opinion truthfully and that is my opinion.

I could have been appeasing, but that would have been lying when my opinion is what I put there.
 
John, chapter 10

16: And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. **So there shall be one flock, one shepherd. **

Doesn’t the fact that there are over 30,000 different protestant denominations make this prophecy of Jesus null and void?
 
Thaddeus said:
John, chapter 10

16: And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. **So there shall be one flock, one shepherd. **

Doesn’t the fact that there are over 30,000 different protestant denominations make this prophecy of Jesus null and void?
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No - apart from anything else, there were plenty of competitors with Catholicism before the Reformation. There seems to be an idea that Catholicism was the only form of Christianity in existence before 1517; it’s not so.​

What nobody has so far stated, is what the unity of the Church consists in. Until someone does, this discussion will go nowhere, because disunity is a meaningless concept unless it can be contrasted with unity - we need to define the one, in order to discuss the other. ##
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Hi,
Coming Home to me means physically dying and being home in heaven with my Lord and Savior:thumbsup: 😃

That is my real home this life Im just passin through:thumbsup:
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You not realize it but that means becoming Catholic.

CDL
 
Gottle_of_Geer said:

No - apart from anything else, there were plenty of competitors with Catholicism before the Reformation. There seems to be an idea that Catholicism was the only form of Christianity in existence before 1517; it’s not so.​

What nobody has so far stated, is what the unity of the Church consists in. Until someone does, this discussion will go nowhere, because disunity is a meaningless concept unless it can be contrasted with unity - we need to define the one, in order to discuss the other. ##
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Like the Cathars, Waldensians, Manichaens, Adoptionists, Arians, Gnostics, Pelagians etc. You mean like the people who did not believe in marriage and had a sacrament to celebrate suicide?

CDL
 
I can’t explain Protestantism to anyone and I was once a Protestant.
In fact, I don’t think I really knew what I was doing then. I read the bible, but I had no idea what direction the “Spirit” would lead me on any given day to help me out with it. Sometimes my Pastor would help me out. But, he too was relying on the same thing. I have no bad feelings from that experience, but it is sure nice for me that it is the past.
I just was not for me.
 
Hellisreal said:
I can’t explain Protestantism to anyone and I was once a Protestant.
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I have already completely explained if for everyone but I shall repeat and then there shall be no reason for this thread to continue further:

The Reformation was ordained by The Lord and brought on by the Separation of The Church And Christianity.
By the time of Luther the CC had been selling “spots in Heaven” for years and promising folks salvation for gold.
Our God brought the Reformation into Europe as a way to cleanse the church not as a way to destroy the church and it worked wonderfully.
There is One Church and many denominations. Thanks unto God.
WP
 
Just a question for you… where exactly in the Bible is either sola fide or sola scriptura justified?
And didn’t Jesus say that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church? That implies unity. If there is One Protestant Church, as you say, why then are the various denominations not united in their doctrine?
 
Then someone please define this** unity **which Christ prayed for and is obviously His Will.
 
Well, in 1 Corinthians 1:10, Paul says, “Brothers, I urge you, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, not to have factions among yourselves but all to be in agreement in what you profess; so that you are perfectly united in your beliefs and judgements.”

In Colossians 1:19-20, it says, “…because God wanted all fullness to be found in him and through him to reconcile all things to him…”

God has one Holy Will. He wishes all to be united in Him.
 
Alphonsine said:
If there is One Protestant Church, as you say, why then are the various denominations not united in their doctrine?
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I never said there is one Protestant Church, I said there is one Christian Church.
All Christian Churches are united in their belief in the Trinity and the resurrection of Christ and in the Apostle’s Creed.
Anything which disagrees with these basic beliefs is not Christian.
WP
 
Kitty_Chan said:
in response to the statement " where are denominations and the Reformation in the Bible?"

The best I can explain is if you were to listen to a particular rabbi then you are agreeing with his interpertation. If another comes then you would have to decide if you agree with that one and take on their yoke as it were.

Jesus had a totally different teaching and some accepted, some didnt. (He did say His yoke was easy) He was changing the way people looked at things. Trying to get them to see what was always there.
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JMJ just wondering if this did clear it up?
 
colliric said:
You can’t explain protestantism… You are right that it doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense to me either.

You pretty much answered your own question with that :confused:

Really, the Catholic Church is the only one that makes sense, what with it’s Tradition and Scripture position.
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I am questioning this. A protestant friend of mine says that Mary is described as sinless in the bible and we have to believe in Mary’s Immaculate Conception.

Why is there a difference? It appears that Catholicism does not make sense here.
 
Okay - so all Christians believe in Christ’s Resurrection, the Trinity, and the Apostle’s Creed. Agreed. These are not the matters that Christian denominations are agruing about amongst themselves. They are debating moral issues, scripture, etc. If there is One Christian Church, as you say, then there would be one clear doctrine regarding faith matters.
I know that Protestants are not united in many of the above areas. Unity in Christ calls for unity in truth. Christ’s truth pertains to all areas of our lives.
The only church that I know of that has a clear and defined doctrine is the Catholic Church.
 
My answer to the OP is …

Protestants take the one or more aspects of the Bible they choose to believe and found a church based on it. They gloss over the parts they don’t want to expand on, and go with it, hoping that the pretty churches and exciting fellowship will make up for a lack of doctrine founded in the Good news.

But that’s just my opinion after having been a Protestant.

I am SO glad to be in His church.
 
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