Will we retain Wounds we have had after Resurrection?

[JRKH]

This thought occurred to me the other day and I wanted to get other opinions.

When Jesus Rose from the Dead he retained his wounds. After all Thomas put his fingers and hand into them. This got me thinking.

At resurection will we also retain our “wounds” like missing organs (appendix or tonsils)?
What about a person killed violently with grave wounds?
What about someone who was “blown to smithereans” in war?

What is the common understanding of this at resurection?
Will we rise as we are (or aren’t) or will we rise completely healed?

Peace
James

 

[JordanSRT]

This thought occurred to me the other day and I wanted to get other opinions.

When Jesus Rose from the Dead he retained his wounds. After all Thomas put his fingers and hand into them. This got me thinking.

At resurection will we also retain our “wounds” like missing organs (appendix or tonsils)?
What about a person killed violently with grave wounds?
What about someone who was “blown to smithereans” in war?

What is the common understanding of this at resurection?
Will we rise as we are (or aren’t) or will we rise completely healed?

Peace
James

I believe we are given a perfect non-corporeal body.

 

[O.S.Luke]

This might be helpful, from the New American Bible version of I Corinthians 15.

I certainly hope it isn’t my present body - it’s pale, arthritic, nearsighted, and colorblind!

O+

 

[bpbasilphx]

I believe we are given a perfect non-corporeal body.

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**The very term “non-corporeal body” is an oxymoron, like “neat garbage.” The root of the word “corporeal” is the Latin “corpus”, which means “physical body.”

I don’t believe our resurrected physical bodies will be subject to the same limitations our bodies are now–but they won’t be “non-corporeal”.

As far as scars and wounds in the World to Come, wouldn’t they be jewels of glory if given for Christ’s sake? I would be honored and humbled to get to kiss the wounds of the martyrs and confessors in heaven. (This is just my opinion; I don’t dwell on it.)

However, I do believe all our infirmites, including missing organs and limbs, will be perfectly healed.**

 

[GEddie]

I believe we are given a perfect non-corporeal body.

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**The very term “non-corporeal body” is an oxymoron, like “neat garbage.” The root of the word “corporeal” is the Latin “corpus”, which means “physical body.”

I don’t believe our resurrected physical bodies will be subject to the same limitations our bodies are now–but they won’t be “non-corporeal”.

As far as scars and wounds in the World to Come, wouldn’t they be jewels of glory if given for Christ’s sake? I would be honored and humbled to get to kiss the wounds of the martyrs and confessors in heaven. (This is just my opinion; I don’t dwell on it.)

However, I do believe all our infirmites, including missing organs and limbs, will be perfectly healed.**

Well I believe his use of “noncorporeal” while incorrect, was simply a misunderstanding; probably meaning “non earthly.”

As to bodily wounds in Heaven: no doubt this is one of those questions that can’t be answered because it will be so individual. JESUS kept His wounds because He needed to show His friends He was still himself. None of us will be coming back once we have been fitted with a body in Heaven, so we will have no need to show our wounds, if any.

Injuries suffered in martydom are indeed an honor; but most body damage is not the result of martyrdom. Are those who die naturally going to keep their withered, crippled form (the “wounds” of natural death) in Heaven? Or, if someone were martyred by beheading or otherwise dismembered, would they go to Heaven in that dismembered state?

The resurrection body, like the natural body, is too individual to say much about generally. So is the experience of death. What we do know is that our LORD’s death wounds affected neither the beauty and form, or the use, of HIS body. We will have the same in Heaven.

ICXC NIKA

 

[JRKH]

I believe we are given a perfect non-corporeal body.

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**The very term “non-corporeal body” is an oxymoron, like “neat garbage.” The root of the word “corporeal” is the Latin “corpus”, which means “physical body.”

I don’t believe our resurrected physical bodies will be subject to the same limitations our bodies are now–but they won’t be “non-corporeal”.

As far as scars and wounds in the World to Come, wouldn’t they be jewels of glory if given for Christ’s sake? I would be honored and humbled to get to kiss the wounds of the martyrs and confessors in heaven. (This is just my opinion; I don’t dwell on it.)

However, I do believe all our infirmites, including missing organs and limbs, will be perfectly healed.**

And this led my thinking to - what of those persons who wer atomized in an atomic blast or some such thing. Is there even a Body to resurect?

Peace
James

 

[O.S.Luke]

And this led my thinking to - what of those persons who wer atomized in an atomic blast or some such thing. Is there even a Body to resurect?

Peace
James

We all eventually turn into dust. If God breathed life into us once from dust, I suspect He will have no trouble doing it again.

 

[JRKH]

We all eventually turn into dust. If God breathed life into us once from dust, I suspect He will have no trouble doing it again.

The best answer yet. This too is what I believe.
Like I said, after thinking about Christ’s wounds I just got to thinking…

Peace
James

 

[Claire_from_DE]

I think we may bear marks that show wounds we suffered for love of God. They would be like badges of honor.

 

[GEddie]

And this led my thinking to - what of those persons who wer atomized in an atomic blast or some such thing. Is there even a Body to resurect?

Peace
James

That will in no way prevent you from having (rather, being) a BODY. Indeed, it is no different, at all, from what will happen to you naturally if you are not incorrupt, or not die less than 3 or so days before the end.

The dead, naturally, break down, become unable to hold life; then just a heap of bones, which is no longer a Body; then, millenniums later, even the bones are gone. This is no different than what the “nuclear blast” would do to you, just slower.

But there is no doubt that you will have a BODY in the other life. A Body is not just clothing for your mind; your BODY holds your life together. You need one to be, and a Body will be provided in Heaven. How much of the substance of your Heavenly BODY was part of your earthen one; whether the whole thing, or just the bones, or none any more-- is something that can only be answered individually, in the other Life.

 

[bpbasilphx]

And this led my thinking to - what of those persons who wer atomized in an atomic blast or some such thing. Is there even a Body to resurect?

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**Have you ever read WAY OF A PILGRIM?

The Pilgrim met a man who had similar questions about the Resurrection at the Last Day.

He later suffered some kind of paralysis, and another pesant gathered up a great quantity of bones and distilled some kind of ointment from them.

The Pilgrim marvelled how dead bones, dry and nearly dust themselves, could give life to bodies half dead. He saw in this a pledge of the Resurrection.**

 

[Eucharisted]

The Sacred Wounds of Jesus Christ are a sign of His Love and Mercy and, just like everything of Jesus, are a free and undeserving gift of God to us men for our greater good. Our wounds will be healed, as we will suffer no longer, but perhaps Christ will grant stigmatics the gift of their share in His Passion to be visible on their bodies after rising.

 

[Doxiemom]

I don’t think we can appreciated the magnitude of what it is going to be when all of our parts are gathered together with our spirits.

We are talking about a whole lot of long long dead bodies. some gone back to atoms, and regenerated all together into something else. Or, even your donated kidneys or hearts, still pumping away, and now God wants them back.

But, God being God, has it all worked out. All things are possibel with God. Messy, chaotic, maybe, if He so choses. Or it could just be a bunch of PUFFS!!! and there we all are, nice and tidy.

But Jesus retained His Wounds as proof to those disciples that He was just Who He said He was. And also to prove to the sealed jews that He was Jesus whom they had pierced when He comes again.

 

[thirdn6]

I think this is one place to start if we’d like to have a little glimpse of how we will be resurrected…

(RSV)Ezequiel 37 1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones. 2 And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry. 3 And he said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” And I answered, “O Lord GOD, thou knowest.” 4 Again he said to me, “Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD.” 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And as I looked, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord GOD: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.” 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great host. 11 Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, `Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people; and I will bring you home into the land of Israel. 13 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people. 14 And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land; then you shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I have done it, says the LORD.”

But if a person went ‘puff’ or ‘smoked to death’ (cremated?)- don’t ask me how’s he going to be ‘re-skinned’ if he’s got no more bones.

Some things I have privately been thinking of …

• We will be resurrected. We will have physical bodies retaining our senses less ability to sexually reproduce (There will be no more tears… the gnashing and grinding of teeth). We will retain our identities (we will be able to recognize our saints and friends and angels who will lead us to our Lord sorry protestants if you guys end up strangers in heaven recognizing no saints at all). We can recollect on good deeds we shared towards others (the good ‘spirits’ we imparted). We can still probably eat fish like our Lord. We’ll probably have new glorified bodies able breath without air and able to penetrate even the thickness of Jupiter from one side to the other (that is, IF we are not again limited by gravity or get stucked in our own planet earth).

Possibilities are limitless I think.

But in Jesus case it’s different. He died only three days prior to the resurrection. His wounds were still present on his body. His body did not undergo total ‘decomposition’ (for lack of word). This is also to fortify his claim of rising again and prove that he conquered death. The same body BUT a glorified body. He still is the master of elements - known and unknown.

But my problem is this… Are we going to be given just one white linen cloth for use to cover our bodies for all eternity? I had never been a nudist.

Seriously, though… I think we will all be in our prime years after the resurrection - whole and fully immortal humans.

 

[Lizziebel]

sorry protestants if you guys end up strangers in heaven recognizing no saints at all

It seems that you must not have learned this about protestants, so I just wanted to let you know that they do actually recognize the saints and look to the lives of the saints as examples. Oh, and why would anyone in Heaven be a stranger and not recognize their friends, the saints, and their angels?

God bless!

 

[GEddie]

Oh, and why would anyone in Heaven be a stranger and not recognize their friends, the saints, and their angels?

God bless!

That never was a concern for me. It seems to me, when my breathing comes back on to awaken me from death, JESUS would be holding me, and HE would introduce me to everybody

 

[LutheranDK]

I believe we are given a perfect non-corporeal body.

Why non-corporeal?
Apostolicum DOES say “the resurrection of the body” (even clearer in Latin: “carnis resurrectionem” and Greek " σαρκὸς ἀνάστασιν")

I would say, a perfect corporeal body, instead, but the follow-up questions to this are endless, and we won’t get an answer on this side of the Second Coming

 

[Lizziebel]

That never was a concern for me. It seems to me, when my breathing comes back on to awaken me from death, JESUS would be holding me, and HE would introduce me to everybody

Makes sense! And I really like that idea .

My question about that was really for the poster I replied to earlier, who seems for some reason to think that protestants in Heaven would be strangers (whereas Catholics wouldn’t).

 

[JRKH]

Why non-corporeal?
Apostolicum DOES say “the resurrection of the body” (even clearer in Latin: “carnis resurrectionem” and Greek " σαρκὸς ἀνάστασιν")

I would say, a perfect corporeal body, instead, but the follow-up questions to this are endless, and we won’t get an answer on this side of the Second Coming

True True - Just a bit of speculation on my part.
God has this all under control and will do as He has planned.
It was just that It occurred to me about Jeus retaining His wounds and it got me wondering if others had thought of this and what others thought about it.
I like many of the responses so far.

Peace
James

 

[GEddie]

Makes sense! And I really like that idea .

My question about that was really for the poster I replied to earlier, who seems for some reason to think that protestants in Heaven would be strangers (whereas Catholics wouldn’t).

I have been a Protestant, which is why I responded.

Most Protestants don’t think too hard about recognition in Heaven, in my experience. I guess the thought is they will have eternity to work it out, which is true.

But even as Catholics we do not know, for example, Saint Paul so as to recognize him; and I for one, do not for a moment believe that there will be name tags in Heaven, or that we would recognize someone by bodily scars (in his case, on his neck). Much more likely, we will initially recognize our LORD and HE will handle all the introductions.