Wine at the traditional rite

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how come we do not partake of the blood of our Lord during the Eucharist in the traditional mass?

I have been to two traditional masses and I absolutely love it however shouldn’t wine be part of the Eucharist?
 
**how come we do not partake of the blood of our Lord **during the Eucharist in the traditional mass?

I have been to two traditional masses and I absolutely love it however shouldn’t wine be part of the Eucharist?

You do partake of the Blood of our Lord. Each individual species–is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity —of our Lord Jesus. So by receiving the Host alone–you also receive the Blood.

In the EF (Traditional Latin Mass) – the Host alone is traditionally offered.

The Church allows the Chalice (Blood) in the OF —but the Church does not mandate that the Chalice be offered in each and every Mass. Not all Masses offer the Chalice.
 
I have no issue with not receiving both species at the Traditional Mass (Extraordinary Form). I know that when I get the Host then, that is plenty for me.

There are times not all those who want to partake in the cup get to do so at Novus Ordo (Ordinary Form) especially if the lines are long and most partake then there is none left. Some people will not partake in the wine if they are ill or on medication which is personal choice.
 
Receiving under both kinds is a new concept to me. When I was younger, regardless of which church you went to you received under one species, save for special occasion such as wedding Masses, Easter Vigil, and Midnight Mass at Christmas. FWIW, this wasn’t even that long ago. I’m talking about the 90s to early 2000s.:eek:
 
The reason the Cup is not presented is the same as the reason that girls do not serve; the rubrics do not provide for it.

As far as the issue of spilling - that is not a reason for or against receiving from the Cup.
In fact, if you were to attend a Byzantine rite Mass and receive, you would not receive from the Cup, but rather from a spoon. I have yet to see a spill from the Cup, but in the 1950’s and early 1960’s it was not at all unusual to see a Host dropped, and that was when one received only on the tongue. That was why the altar boys carried a paten, and the Host did not always land on or stay on the paten. The issue of spilling from the Cup is essentially a non-issue.

The Catholic Church has a two thousand year history of people receiving under both Species; however, the Roman rite, because of the attacks of some Protestant sects in the 1500’s and in opposition to their statements restricted reception to only the Host in order to make a theological point.

As this was primarily an issue in Europe, the Eastern rite Churches continued the ancient practice of reception under both Species.
 
The Catholic Church has a two thousand year history of people receiving under both Species; however, the Roman rite, because of the attacks of some Protestant sects in the 1500’s and in opposition to their statements restricted reception to only the Host in order to make a theological point.
The Western practice of reception under one Species was practiced in certain cases throughout Church history (long-standing customs which give strong evidence, if not proof, against the Eastern Orthodox contention that reception under both Species is Divinely commanded).

It became the standard practice for the West between the 13th and 15th centuries, not the 16th. It was not done as a response to Protestants, since if you start counting Protestantism as a movement with Martin Luther, that’s not until the 16th c. (Luther’s 95 Theses were posted in 1517).

The the Utraquists (from “utraque” which is Latin for “both”, also called the “Calixtines” from “calix” meaning “chalice”), a party of Hussites, rejected the practice of Communion under one Species in 1414, saying that one had to receive both Species to receive Christ (“utraque” is Latin for “both”). So it was clearly becoming the widespread practice before then, during the 14th c.

St. Thomas (+1274) answers the question, “Whether it is lawful to receive the body of Christ without the blood?” by saying, “It is the custom of many churches for the body of Christ to be given to the communicant without His blood.” (Summa, III, Q.80, A.12) and that’s during the 13th c.

He says that the reason the Chalice is reserved to the celebrant alone in these churches (later made universal in the West), was to guard against profanation from the danger of spilling:

“But on the part of the recipient the greatest reverence and caution are called for, lest anything happen which is unworthy of so great a mystery. Now this could especially happen in receiving the blood, for, if incautiously handled, it might easily be spilt. And because the multitude of the Christian people increased, in which there are old, young, and children, some of whom have not enough discretion to observe due caution in using this sacrament, on that account it is a prudent custom in some churches for the blood not to be offered to the reception of the people, but to be received by the priest alone.” (ibid.)

Anyway, the reservation of the Chalice to the celebrant in the West had nothing to do with “making a theological point” to the Protestants and occurred hundreds of years before Luther was even born. The purpose of this practice is simply to reduce the risk of profanation and in traditional Masses today, the same practice is maintained and for the same reason in addition to it being a long-standing universal practice with regards to the Latin Rite.
 
The Western practice of reception under one Species was practiced in certain cases throughout Church history (long-standing customs which give strong evidence, if not proof, against the Eastern Orthodox contention that reception under both Species is Divinely commanded).

It became the standard practice for the West between the 13th and 15th centuries, not the 16th. It was not done as a response to Protestants, since if you start counting Protestantism as a movement with Martin Luther, that’s not until the 16th c. (Luther’s 95 Theses were posted in 1517).

The the Utraquists (from “utraque” which is Latin for “both”, also called the “Calixtines” from “calix” meaning “chalice”), a party of Hussites, rejected the practice of Communion under one Species in 1414, saying that one had to receive both Species to receive Christ (“utraque” is Latin for “both”). So it was clearly becoming the widespread practice before then, during the 14th c.

St. Thomas (+1274) answers the question, “Whether it is lawful to receive the body of Christ without the blood?” by saying, “It is the custom of many churches for the body of Christ to be given to the communicant without His blood.” (Summa, III, Q.80, A.12) and that’s during the 13th c.

He says that the reason the Chalice is reserved to the celebrant alone in these churches (later made universal in the West), was to guard against profanation from the danger of spilling:

“But on the part of the recipient the greatest reverence and caution are called for, lest anything happen which is unworthy of so great a mystery. Now this could especially happen in receiving the blood, for, if incautiously handled, it might easily be spilt. And because the multitude of the Christian people increased, in which there are old, young, and children, some of whom have not enough discretion to observe due caution in using this sacrament, on that account it is a prudent custom in some churches for the blood not to be offered to the reception of the people, but to be received by the priest alone.” (ibid.)

Anyway, the reservation of the Chalice to the celebrant in the West had nothing to do with “making a theological point” to the Protestants and occurred hundreds of years before Luther was even born. The purpose of this practice is simply to reduce the risk of profanation and in traditional Masses today, the same practice is maintained and for the same reason in addition to it being a long-standing universal practice with regards to the Latin Rite.
It is my recollection that Trent mandated it for the Roman rite. I did not mean to imply that it was a universal about face; much of ritual change has been gradual over history.

And I stand by my statement that I have yet to see the Blood spilled, but I have seen numerous Hosts dropped when I was an altar boy in the 1950’s.
 
This is one issue that bothers me as I consider Catholicism. To commune the faithful with only the body is contrary to the clear words of Christ, who says “Drink ye all of it”, and the majority of Christian churches and times. I don’t doubt that the body contains all of Christ, including his blood, only that this is a liturgical abuse. The danger of spillage is far too slight to fundamentally transform eucharistic practice itself.
 
This is one issue that bothers me as I consider Catholicism. To commune the faithful with only the body is contrary to the clear words of Christ, who says “Drink ye all of it”, and the majority of Christian churches and times. ** I don’t doubt that the body contains all of Christ, including his blood, only that this is a liturgical abuse**. The danger of spillage is far too slight to fundamentally transform eucharistic practice itself.

Christ said Eat–Drink—which are two separate acts. The Orthodox and Eastern Catholics --combine the Body and Blood together-- and offer communion via a spoon. So if you want to get picky about it—this method of combining the Body and Blood-- and using a spoon–is not exactly following the words of Christ.
 
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