Wine or Grape Juice.

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I didn’t register for the site, but I’ve participated in a few of those wine vs. grape juice threads. Like all tihngs religious they can get ugly and most minds do not appear to be changed.

Me, I’m in the wine camp. Turning water into wine was Jesus’ first miracle after all!

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ok. I registered just so I could see the action. You’re doing a fine job HC.
 
srsly? I was having fun watching you promote false religions too. ;_; I posted about that thread (and forum) on my lj last night. my methodist seminarian friend replied with:

As per the wine comment: I hear this one a lot too–even from Methodists. Why then did the guests get drunk off it? I’ve drank a lot of grape juice and never gotten drunk off it. Wine is fermented. Unfermented juice is deadly without refrigeration–there was no pasteurization back then. The reason there was so much wine (fermented) back then is because it was safer than the water. You don’t get dysentery from wine. I don’t think the alcohol content was much above 6-8%, but it was absolutely fermented. Noah grew grapes for wine, got drunk. Every mention of wine in proverbs is about not getting drunk. The argument that “it could be unfermented” is simply bogus–they are reading their own views back into the text and not taking it literally.

I’ve never come across a group of people who were as narrow-minded and intolerant as that group. it’s kind of sad.
 
jbethity said:
srsly? I was having fun watching you promote false religions too. ;_; I posted about that thread (and forum) on my lj last night. my methodist seminarian friend replied with:

As per the wine comment: I hear this one a lot too–even from Methodists. Why then did the guests get drunk off it? I’ve drank a lot of grape juice and never gotten drunk off it. Wine is fermented. Unfermented juice is deadly without refrigeration–there was no pasteurization back then. The reason there was so much wine (fermented) back then is because it was safer than the water. You don’t get dysentery from wine. I don’t think the alcohol content was much above 6-8%, but it was absolutely fermented. Noah grew grapes for wine, got drunk. Every mention of wine in proverbs is about not getting drunk. The argument that “it could be unfermented” is simply bogus–they are reading their own views back into the text and not taking it literally.

I’ve never come across a group of people who were as narrow-minded and intolerant as that group. it’s kind of sad.
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That’s true. Also, because they didn’t have refrigerators at that time, wine would ferment naturally.
 
It’s against forum rules to post links to other discussion boards and ask people to go over to it to read or participate. That can cause “forum swarming” and it’s quite uncharitable.

IMHO, if you want to discuss that topic here, this isn’t the way to go about it.
 
1ke said:
It’s against forum rules to post links to other discussion boards and ask people to go over to it to read or participate. That can cause “forum swarming” and it’s quite uncharitable.

IMHO, if you want to discuss that topic here, this isn’t the way to go about it.
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Sorry, I didn’t know. Honestly I was just trying to save an extra post explaining it. I can delete it if need be.
 
I registered on the site.

Sorry, but, what acorns and pecans those KJVers are!

The moderator came on after Holden and TOLD HIM IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that to “look at a glass of wine” was a sin.

Of course, how many hogsheads of claret and port were downed by those Oxonian dons (all covert Catholics) during said rewriting and editing of the Authorized Version?

We have the records; it was part of their salary.

O the hypocrisy of Baptists!

Robert
 
😊 yes Jesus turned the water into wine…i can personally testify to the truth of the host’s words about serving the poor wine last. How? i know for a fact at the end of the night budwieser tastes the same as pilsner.these are two totally different beers.
 
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I registered on the site.

Sorry, but, what acorns and pecans those KJVers are!

The moderator came on after Holden and TOLD HIM IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that to “look at a glass of wine” was a sin.

Of course, how many hogsheads of claret and port were downed by those Oxonian dons (all covert Catholics) during said rewriting and editing of the Authorized Version?

We have the records; it was part of their salary.

O the hypocrisy of Baptists!

Robert
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I know, they were insane. It was so funny though.
 
The idea that a version (based upon poor manuscripts) of the Bible in English, WITH the deuterocanonicals, authorized for use in Anglican (that is, English CATHOLIC) church liturgy is considered by ANYONE, least of all Catholic hating ‘Baptists,’ as THE Bible for the “Word of God” boggles the mind.

Those guys are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

Robert
 
Rbt_Southwell said:
I registered on the site.

Sorry, but, what acorns and pecans those KJVers are!

The moderator came on after Holden and TOLD HIM IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that to “look at a glass of wine” was a sin.

Of course, how many hogsheads of claret and port were downed by those Oxonian dons (all covert Catholics) during said rewriting and editing of the Authorized Version?

We have the records; it was part of their salary.

O the hypocrisy of Baptists!

Robert
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oh, I’m sure they’d deny that just like they deny the fact that grape juice has only been around since the late 1800s and that their religion has only been around since the 1600s. some also deny that they’re protestants because that implies that they’ve evolved from catholicism.
 
Rbt_Southwell said:
The idea that a version (based upon poor manuscripts) of the Bible in English, WITH the deuterocanonicals, authorized for use in Anglican (that is, English CATHOLIC) church liturgy is considered by ANYONE, least of all Catholic hating ‘Baptists,’ as THE Bible for the “Word of God” boggles the mind.

Those guys are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

Robert
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That’s true. Why did they choose the Anglican Church?
 
jbethity said:
oh, I’m sure they’d deny that just like they deny the fact that grape juice has only been around since the late 1800s and that their religion has only been around since the 1600s. some also deny that they’re protestants because that implies that they’ve evolved from catholicism.
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They did that too. They said they weren’t Protestant.
 
Baptist like to say they are not protestant. At seminary it was taught we (baptist) are anabaptist. Unfortunately, the baptist in the sSates are from the purtians of the Anglican Church. Hence their dislike of the semi popish almost roman little whore, ie whorlet?

I have heard baptist say that John the Baptist was the first baptist, so as I heard Bro. Burley say one time…“that proves we were here before those skirt wearing catholics”:eek:

For some interesting reading, maybe in the male reading room (aka the bathroom), get a copy of “The Trail of Blood” bu J.M. Carroll. This book is suppose to trace certain baptist churches all the way back to the apostles. As baptist like charts, this book has one. Now the work is not that scholarly. It has the dark ages ranging from about 500 to 1700 AD.

And btw…any good baptist knows Jesus used Welchs 100% Grape Juice:thumbsup:
 
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