Wisdom personified as female in some bibles

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Why is Wisdom referred to as “she” in the Douay bibles? Yet, in the revised bibles, “it” is used when referring to Wisdom.
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Probably a literary/allegorical convention like referring to a ship, liberty, or luck, as “she”
Victory it portrayed a female…as are the Fates

Besides, unlike in English, in many languages different nouns have a gender
 
Woman personifies wisdom. The creation of the Woman (here capitalized to denote “woman” as a holy title and office) was as God’s greatest gift to man. The Genesis language prefigured her role as a catalyst of salvation. Translated as “helpmate,” this word is only used elsewhere of God. The meaning is “as one who brings water to a man dying of thirst.” She isn’t the Savior, the Living Water, but she brings the Living Water!

That “woman” is a holy title and office carried through the female. This is paired with that male-only atoning priesthood to repair the Sin of Adam in Wisdom Ch.10.

"She preserved the first-formed father of the world when he alone had been created; And she raised him up from his fall, and gave him power to rule all things. But when the unjust man withdrew from her in his anger, he perished through his fratricidal wrath.

Woman is given the figure of the one who whispers in Adam’s ear to respond to God’s call to reconciliation, and she who was ignored in Cain’s blasphemous anger over Abel’s acceptable sacrifice. Wisdom is the Woman, later named “Eve.” Wisdom is indeed the “mother of all living” for to ignore her is death.

The Genesis language of “helpmate” show Woman as the catalyst for salvation. Woman is like that chemical that doesn’t enter into the reaction but triggers it. This is seen in the role of the Virgin Mary as fulfilling the Genesis 3:15, God’s curse upon Lucifer with the Woman. Christ exclusively used the word “woman” when speaking of His mother.

Today’s woman-despising neo-gnostic culture sees this holy term as a reproach! Gnostics make of “sophia” a divine in their paradigm that denigrates and despises woman. Here is the flattering destroyer that seeks to obliterate Satan and his seed’s foe of lasting enmity, the Woman and her Seed.

Christ derived His role of priest as the Second Adam, and His role of crushing Satan as the Seed of the Woman. All who “hear and obey” are Christ’s brothers and sisters who accept, with John, adoption into kinship with Christ through her. Jews account lineage through the mother. She is the Queen-Mother whose Seed is persecuted in Apocalpyse 12, and her “other seed” are also tormented.

Wisdom as feminine foreshadows the Blessed Virgin Mary’s spousal unity with divinity as Bride of the Holy Spirit, a role which demanded her Immaculate Conception. This intimacy is not divinity itself nor an obliteration of personhood within divinity as the Hindus teach. Christ’s Bride, the Church, will share such spousal unity and intimacy with Christ’s divinity.

Christ is “wisdom” and following Christ is “foolishness.” Using one verse to make of Christ the summation of the feminine direction of the use of “wisdom” or to ignore other Petrine writings pointing to the Blessed Virgin as fulfilling wisdom literature is…unwise. Wisdom is a gift of the Holy Spirit as Woman is God’s gift. The Blessed Virgin’s Immaculate Heart is that purity and power of a will united to God’s by which her catalytic “yes” to the Seed was given, bringing the Savior and victory over Lucifer and his seed. Her other seed must emulate her wise assent.
 
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BibleReader:
On World Youth Day, Deacon, the Pope argued that Wisdom in the Book of Proverbs is also Christ.

Like you, I wanted Wisdom to be the Holy Spirit. It makes so much sense. But close examination of Scripture reveals that Wisdom is Christ.
Deacon Ed has made a very valid point about Wisdom as understood in both the Old and the New Testaments.

Also someone else said that we do not need to see this as an either/or situation.

I see Wisdom in more than one way: the Holy Spirit, the Grace of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God. Jesus is identified by St. John the Evangelist as “the Word”. When you read the Wisdom literature it is easy to substitute the word “Wisdom” for Word, or “Word” for Wisdom, for they are truly interchangable in the language of the Scripture writers.

What is important is the depth of understanding that is given to us from Wisdom, either via the Grace of the Holy Spirit, or through reading the Wisdom literature.

When I chose verses from the Book of Wisdom and then from Sirach I was not out to make a compelling case that Wisdom is the Holy Spirit. I only wanted to demonstrate the beauty of the words and what they were saying to me, and how in those words I could see the action of the Holy Spirit as understood by an ancient people, and how I understood those same words in light of the coming of the Messiah and the Redemption

Maggie
 
Proverbs also has some interesting passages on Wisdom:

“My son if you take my words to heart,
if you set store by my commandments,
tuning your ear to wisdom,
and applying your heart to truth.” (Prov 2:1-2)

“For Yahweh himself is the giver of wisdom,
from his mouth issues knowledge and discernment.” (Prov 2: 6)

This is in line with my understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit and grace within us.

“When wisdom comes into your heart
and knowledge is a delight to you,
then prudence will be there to watch over you,
and discernment be your guardian” (Prov 2:10-12)

I have not completed my study of the Book of Proverbs, and I do not have time to post all of the beautiful passages that are to be found there, but there is nothing quite like the above, as well as the following:

“My son hold to sound judgment and to prudence,
do not let them out of your sight;
They will prove the life of your soul,
an ornament around your neck
you will go on your way in safety,
your feet will not stumble.” (Prov 3: 21-23)

Without a doubt Wisdom encompasses Grace, the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ, depending upon the context of what you are reading. What I see in the Wisdom literature is more or less along the lines of the working of the Holy Spirit through grace. In the few passages that I have quoted from Proverbs I see Wisdom in terms of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that are dispensed to us through Grace and the Sacraments.

MaggieOH
 
stillsmallvoice said:
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. . . . Please allow me to solve the mystery. “Wisdom” in the Tanakh (what we call what Christians call the “Old Testament”) is referred to as she (as, ferinstance, in the Book of Proverbs) because the (original) Hebrew word khokhma is feminine (Hebrew is like Spanish, French, Italian, etc. in that all nouns are either masculine or feminine). . . .

Thank you. Yes! Of course Wisdom is a woman! Just ask my wife! So who are these churls who are changing “she” into"he"?
 
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