Witchcraft

[KathleenGee]

And I bring it up because I was one of those who thought my faith very strong. I moved away into another place where people didn’t know me very well.

And, guess what…it happened to me, and also greatly damaged the faith of my family.

I went to the archdiocesan exorcist and was the only priest who confirmed what was happening to me, things I had never experienced before, and sensing like my pathwalk in God was being taken away, I left floundering, sensing outside the graces of Christ in the Church. This experience affected my entire life. And best I do not recall any of what happened or the spiritual wound returns.

Being without God and your faithwalk, being kept in some kind of weird bondage, is something that caused me the greatest pain, and something no matter what seemed impossible to get over.

The only way I could change was to let them win, and let them have whatever, and to take a new direction in life. In that time, the Lord’s shepherd in the Church began inquiring about me, where was I, and they called me back into ministry training.

There are people who the Evil One leads into the Church to destroy it from within.

And that is why this last attack on lay ministers, happening in the 80’s and 90’s was Satan’s last time given him by Christ to destroy the Church from within. A woman religious told me that I was experiencing tribulation, just as we pray at 3 am to fight evil and pray for conversions, likewise, they have their system of spiritual senses, and began doing their thing when they sense someone is targeted…like a board beginning to be lit up all over.

And I live in a place where there are many who practice the occult. I have gone in to a few homes in my profession and saw them with crystal balls and dragons and ‘the eye’.

There is a power to it and when those in the Church deny any of it, they are themselves victimized by rationalism.

I have read of priests being hexed in Africa by witchdoctors. I have met a woman who worked in deliverance with the clergy. Priests can be hexed, even though they have Holy Orders.

And if they rationalize this doesn’t exist, they are the ones being used to protect and uphold the one doing the damage.

See it now happening with a trial somewhere, someone who admitted into witchcraft, making the others the abusers, wanting to use spiritual power that everything work their way and in their favor and the victim be labelled as the bad one.

Been there, and what hurts more is when good practicing Catholics, may be coming from some personal, negative perception of the victim, join in to defend the abuser…this is all the effects of what can happen when someone is targeted by someone doing things.

And the exorcist was right…using goat horns to get information, and so many years later, I heard the police were called to the individual’s home because towns people thought the person was sacrificing animals.

When the police got there they could do nothing. The person was slaughtering goats. Domestic animals are not protected from being used in occults.

These bad kinds who continue to get away with things, shed blood to get their power. And i know this person hemorraghed for weeks…before anything happened to me…and then I heard this person was ‘sick’ again, meaning hemorraghing after the attack on me.

So I think this was what happened every time the person would use the occult on someone and really hurt them and their marriages and family.

The rosary and penance is so powerful…and yet this person who was in the occult did the rosary and penance!!!

Alot of deception, confusion…with the help of the person’s ability to be a clairvoyant and get confidential information, twist it and cause alot of confusion where people would just give up and want to be away…and then the individual keep going on with their bad deeds.

 

[Matthew_Cox]

And I bring it up because I was one of those who thought my faith very strong. I moved away into another place where people didn’t know me very well.

And, guess what…it happened to me, and also greatly damaged the faith of my family.

I went to the archdiocesan exorcist and was the only priest who confirmed what was happening to me, things I had never experienced before, and sensing like my pathwalk in God was being taken away, I left floundering, sensing outside the graces of Christ in the Church. This experience affected my entire life. And best I do not recall any of what happened or the spiritual wound returns.

Being without God and your faithwalk, being kept in some kind of weird bondage, is something that caused me the greatest pain, and something no matter what seemed impossible to get over.

The only way I could change was to let them win, and let them have whatever, and to take a new direction in life. In that time, the Lord’s shepherd in the Church began inquiring about me, where was I, and they called me back into ministry training.

There are people who the Evil One leads into the Church to destroy it from within.

And that is why this last attack on lay ministers, happening in the 80’s and 90’s was Satan’s last time given him by Christ to destroy the Church from within. A woman religious told me that I was experiencing tribulation, just as we pray at 3 am to fight evil and pray for conversions, likewise, they have their system of spiritual senses, and began doing their thing when they sense someone is targeted…like a board beginning to be lit up all over.

And I live in a place where there are many who practice the occult. I have gone in to a few homes in my profession and saw them with crystal balls and dragons and ‘the eye’.

There is a power to it and when those in the Church deny any of it, they are themselves victimized by rationalism.

I have read of priests being hexed in Africa by witchdoctors. I have met a woman who worked in deliverance with the clergy. Priests can be hexed, even though they have Holy Orders.

And if they rationalize this doesn’t exist, they are the ones being used to protect and uphold the one doing the damage.

See it now happening with a trial somewhere, someone who admitted into witchcraft, making the others the abusers, wanting to use spiritual power that everything work their way and in their favor and the victim be labelled as the bad one.

Been there, and what hurts more is when good practicing Catholics, may be coming from some personal, negative perception of the victim, join in to defend the abuser…this is all the effects of what can happen when someone is targeted by someone doing things.

And the exorcist was right…using goat horns to get information, and so many years later, I heard the police were called to the individual’s home because towns people thought the person was sacrificing animals.

When the police got there they could do nothing. The person was slaughtering goats. Domestic animals are not protected from being used in occults.

These bad kinds who continue to get away with things, shed blood to get their power. And i know this person hemorraghed for weeks…before anything happened to me…and then I heard this person was ‘sick’ again, meaning hemorraghing after the attack on me.

So I think this was what happened every time the person would use the occult on someone and really hurt them and their marriages and family.

The rosary and penance is so powerful…and yet this person who was in the occult did the rosary and penance!!!

Alot of deception, confusion…with the help of the person’s ability to be a clairvoyant and get confidential information, twist it and cause alot of confusion where people would just give up and want to be away…and then the individual keep going on with their bad deeds.

how would you define occult practices? I know those in my group and none of them have done anything like what you’ve described here

 

[gnosisofthomas]

how would you define occult practices? I know those in my group and none of them have done anything like what you’ve described here

Yeah, I don’t think these things are common… Most of what she said would violate a witch’s ethics. But who knows, there can be scary people in any religion and/or magical circle.

 

[KathleenGee]

As I said, the lady at the crystal shop told me that people who manipulate to get their way with using occults, are evil.

The bishop here finally had something done to deal with the person, but I don’t think anybody is entitled to…Christ wants to be the one to take them on. And i found out they may be living by me.

I pray for them, but the Holy Spirit guided me to simply abandon them to the will of God because it was so traumatic and had put my inner being in bondage. I only heard two years ago another thing being said about me, and it really put me to the edge…a priest was hearing things and told my partner he could not believe the things they were saying about me…but when I heard it…about my mother, it really made me cry. She had been sick since I was 3. She lost her dad at a critical time for a little girl, when she was 6. But a most kind person.

Like I said, they target the person to destroy them, not physically. I have neurological condition from all of it, and cannot serve as a Eucharistic Minister for fear I will fall down in front of people, get dizzy. I can lector OK, but not just stand there.

As I said, the only thing that would heal me was to find a new faith walk and it has taken years, although I have been active.

Very unusual people, and they used their image as a protection as well…giving people the compulsion to give them more slack because they were very different.

Lots of times, I have heard this from others, you don’t realize how much you are in over your head until it happens, and then it is too late and the damage done. Mine happened very fast, and also heard she had been ‘sick for some time’. God bless them. That is all I can say, and do, and the Lord forgives all sin if a person will let Him.

But remember, in the Epistles witchcraft and dissension are on the same vein.

 

[Candescent]

Deuteronomy 18:10-14 Neither let there be found among you any one that shall expiate his son or daughter, making them to pass through the fire: **or that consulteth soothsayers, or observeth dreams and omens, neither let there be any wizard, 11 Nor charmer, nor any one that consulteth pythonic spirits, or fortune tellers, or that seeketh the truth from the dead. 12 For the Lord abhorreth all these things, and for these abominations he will destroy them at thy coming. **13 Thou shalt be perfect, and without spot before the Lord thy God. 14 These nations, whose land thou shalt possess, hearken to soothsayers and diviners: but thou art otherwise instructed by the Lord thy God.

Having met many Neo-pagans, I used to do a lot of artwork for them, I think that their response to the above is ‘Why should god abhor these things?’

The answer that comes to me is that if one is busy praying to the goddess, one is not talking to Mary…when one is researching and trying to reactivate old gods such as Thor, they are not looking for Christ. Soothsayers, Charmers, ect, are a pathway away from god, which God abhors, because they beckon to you to stop actively searching and speaking to Him.

As someone else mentioned, I think that there is also an amazement at, and lack of understanding of the reasons for, and importance of, obedience. The only way I’ve been able to get it across to a Pagan is to note the Eastern religions that require a serious follower to relinquish all sense of oneself to a master or teacher. And that the setting aside of ones self, ego etc, is an important step in the journey to really knowing God’s will. They often than have that ’ aha ’ moment and understand how modern Catholics can be obedient to the Church and Pope. : )

 

[Matthew_Cox]

Having met many Neo-pagans, I used to do a lot of artwork for them, I think that their response to the above is ‘Why should god abhor these things?’

The answer that comes to me is that if one is busy praying to the goddess, one is not talking to Mary…when one is researching and trying to reactivate old gods such as Thor, they are not looking for Christ. Soothsayers, Charmers, ect, are a pathway away from god, which God abhors, because they beckon to you to stop actively searching and speaking to Him.

As someone else mentioned, I think that there is also an amazement at, and lack of understanding of the reasons for, and importance of, obedience. The only way I’ve been able to get it across to a Pagan is to note the Eastern religions that require a serious follower to relinquish all sense of oneself to a master or teacher. And that the setting aside of ones self, ego etc, is an important step in the journey to really knowing God’s will. They often than have that ’ aha ’ moment and understand how modern Catholics can be obedient to the Church and Pope. : )

the information you gave on obedience is only true for certain pantheons, such as the old norse. I know several Neo-Pagan shaman who only work to make deals and learn of their path in life. Myself, I’ve come to realizations on what to do and how to live in a similar way.

 

[KathleenGee]

I studied recently the life of St. Hildegard who was recently made a saint by Pope Benedict.

She had 22 occupations, including being a naturopath, botanists, healer. And she was the woman who created opera, turning prayer into song in chant form. I heard her music.

If you are doing the healing arts with nature as she did, there is a similarity.

 

[gnosisofthomas]

I studied recently the life of St. Hildegard who was recently made a saint by Pope Benedict.

She had 22 occupations, including being a naturopath, botanists, healer. And she was the woman who created opera, turning prayer into song in chant form. I heard her music.

If you are doing the healing arts with nature as she did, there is a similarity.

It’s interesting to note that the Greek word used in scripture that is often translated as witchcraft/sorcery is “pharmakeia” (See Galatians 5:19-23). Pharmakeia refers to the practice of making medicines as well as poisons, magic potions, elixirs, etc. I would guess what St. Paul condemned would be harmful concoctions like poisons, since one can hardly condemn beneficial medicine if Christians are supposed to care for the sick.

Witchcraft is a blanket term, that doesn’t really cover the entire definition of pharmakeia.