With the pope against the homoheresy

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Oh my! Have the Homosexual historical revisionists gotten to Cardinal Newman too? :eek:
Loyola,

I was thinking, would it not be great to have a Saint that was once Homosexual…that would really help the situation…

We have Goretti resisted rape and forgave her attacker who later converted through a vision
We have Augustine…fornicator
We speak of Mary Magdalene…
Dorothy Day had an abortion

why not provide someone that was once Homosexual and came to the Faith in greatness…when you search…you come across…John Henry Newman as the candidate and of course there are some old names I never heard of…

Yup…John Henry…
 
Loyola,

I was thinking, would it not be great to have a Saint that was once Homosexual…that would really help the situation…

We have Goretti resisted rape and forgave her attacker who later converted through a vision
We have Augustine…fornicator
We speak of Mary Magdalene…
Dorothy Day had an abortion

why not provide someone that was once Homosexual and came to the Faith in greatness…when you search…you come across…John Henry Newman as the candidate and of course there are some old names I never heard of…

Yup…John Henry…
:thumbsup:I agree, but not at the cost of besmirching the character of a man who, to the best of our knowledge, committed no such acts nor even had any such inclination.:nope:
 
What has my age got to do with my understanding? Good grief, that’s a bit impertinent don’t you think?!

As it happens I’m not young any more, more’s the pity!

But you actually make my point for me with respect to the 1970s onwards… The gay ‘lobby’ only really began to make its presence felt in the mid to late 60s. That would simply not be enough time to indoctrinate a large number of priests of whom a number would go on to become bishops in time for the time-period you reference. That’s why I object to these conspiracy theories since they take no account of the practicality of what they propose!
If there was a gay lobby, it was effective only because it took advantage of the situation created by the abandonment by many priests and vocations of their vocations. In the immigrant church, many parents encouraged their boys to become priests for the same reasons that Jewish parents encouraged their boys to become doctors and even dentists. It was a way UP. The reality was that it was a narrow, clerical life where men lived in barracks so to speak and served more as functionaries of senior clergy than as missionaries.
 
We have Goretti resisted rape and forgave her attacker who later converted through a vision
We have Augustine…fornicator
We speak of Mary Magdalene…
Dorothy Day had an abortion
Coptic,
There is no evidence that Mary Magdalene was a sexual sinner of any consequence. That “legend” has unjustly grown up around her reputation, but modern orthodox theologians now understand such not to be the case at all.
 
Having read that document, all I can say is that I have concluded that I shouldn’t place much store by hysterical conspiracy theories.
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I thought this article - written by Director of the Catholic Culture Project, Phil Lawler , to be quite balanced in its presentation (at the bottom of the article’s page substantiation of his credibility is provided) :

Homosexual network at the Vatican, Yes; reason for the Pope’s resignation, No
Is there a network of homosexual clerics working within the Vatican? Undoubtedly, Yes. Was the discovery of that network a major factor motivating Pope Benedict to resign? Undoubtedly, No.

I’ve been trying to find a regular way to access the article other than clicking on the link in the Original Post - no luck. I tried typing in the link < www.churchmilitant.tv > but just get brought back to ChurchMilitant tv’s website where no documents are accessible - only "Speaking Engagements, Donate,Shop and Michael (Voris’) biography page.
Would this mean that the only way to regularly view or have access to the article, is to become a memeber/sign up for an account ?

Oh my! Have the Homosexual historical revisionists gotten to Cardinal Newman too? :eek:
. . . Yet, it would seem a backward step if we consider that they have gotten all the way to our Blessed Lord Himself and the beloved disciple . . . can really leave a knot in a person’s stomach if one has ever read any of the actual content of that dross .

There is no shortage of books written by those promoting the homosexual agenda in attempts to coerce the world into viewing even Christianity through a distorted pair of gay-coloured glasses. This article mentions several of them in passing: apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=7&article=1431

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I’ve been trying to find a regular way to access the article other than clicking on the link in the Original Post - no luck. I tried typing in the link < www.churchmilitant.tv > but just get brought back to ChurchMilitant tv’s website where no documents are accessible - only "Speaking Engagements, Donate,Shop and Michael (Voris’) biography page.
Would this mean that the only way to regularly view or have access to the article, is to become a memeber/sign up for an account ?
Does the attached file help you?
 
This one is a little more subtle :

A troubling statement I remember hearing when I’d attended a conference of purportedly “liberal-minded” speakers ( I think about 12 years ago) came from the mouth of the “headliner“ - a European speaker who also happened to be a member of the clergy. He repeated 3 or 4 times (in French) “Listen, contraception is not abortion”, each time he was questioned on what he’d said earler. Well, most level-headed Catholics are already aware that contraception isn’t abortion if we’re speaking of prophylactics , so what would be the point of repeating it if not to downplay contraception ? In the larger picture, we discover that in abortifacients the two become synonymous ; and we also have ways of manipulation today which are equivalent to rendering the womb in a perpetual state of abortion.

To return to a quote from the Professor of Christian ethics Germain Grisez’s article :
EXCERPT
. . . According to the Manual (527) the pedophile’s deviant focus “involves sexual activity with a prepubescent child (generally age 13 years or younger).”
With pedophiles, Rossetti contrasts ephebophiles: “There are others who are ephebophiles, i.e. sexually attracted to postpubescent children . . .
One will commonly hear a defense from the homosexual militants/lobby similar in structure to the idea mentioned at the beginning of this post – trying to downplay something by saying it isn’t something else. I’ve seen it posted in these forums more than once where someone will assert (and this quite vigorously) “homosexuality isn’t pedophilia” . Well, let’s look again at the wording in the quote: It says the basic difference between a pedophile and an ephebophile is that their victim – whether virtual (imagined) or actual, is either a
prepubescent child
or
postpubescent children
.
Have we got that now ?** When either is acted out , pedophilia or ephebophilia , in every case it remains a predatory act of child sexual abuse.**

Essentially what lowering the age of consent does, is to lower the age for legal child sexual abuse.

“Age of consent” tells us partially ; “Age of consent with whom” , tells us much more.

If we continue to scrutinize , it becomes evident that the supposed great solid line separating pedophilia from ephebophilia is in fact something as fragile,(and in a real sense – as arbitrary) as whether the victim has experienced their first menstrual cycle or has developed pubic hair.

Lowering the age of consent will blur that line even more.

Whether or not the actual title is conferred on them, the consenting child will come to be considered as a consenting adult.
 
Does the attached file help you?
Thanks.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression : clicking on the OP’s link works fine for reading:thumbsup:,

I was trying to trace the article’s origin - pertaining to availability, ie to see whether it was available to the general public and to have some context as to where the average person could find it within other material (as opposed to just a link which provides the article with no other reference points).
🙂
 
Dex,

Who is it you believe is homosexual and being considered for sainthood…and if you say John Henry Newman…please provide proof of his homosexuality…
He may be claiming it is the priest who died during the 911 terrorist attack.
 
Coptic,
There is no evidence that Mary Magdalene was a sexual sinner of any consequence. That “legend” has unjustly grown up around her reputation, but modern orthodox theologians now understand such not to be the case at all.
They are thinking there are two Mary’s.
 
Though I would not presume that Fr. Oko is making a connection between these secretive groups by using the term ‘homomafia’.

Illuminati/Mafia/Freemasonry, that is, Gnosticism was sown by the devil among the wheat from the very beginning.
 
Coptic,
There is no evidence that Mary Magdalene was a sexual sinner of any consequence. That “legend” has unjustly grown up around her reputation, but modern orthodox theologians now understand such not to be the case at all.
Elizabeth,

Ma sissaa…all I said is

We Speak of Mary Magdalene…

Did not say about what…

Ya know, we have no idea what went on…all we know is that she was not condemned…
 
So first the term “homosexualist” is invented and now we have “homoheresy” 😃
 
So first the term “homosexualist” is invented and now we have “homoheresy” 😃
Ringil,

Get hip man…it is just homosexual Jibe…like this…
There is no evidence that Mary Magdalene was a sexual sinner of any consequence. That “legend” has unjustly grown up around her reputation, but modern orthodox theologians now understand such not to be the case at all.
becomes this…
Dere be no evidence dat Snow Flake Magdalene wuz some sexual sinna’ of any consequence. What it is, Mama! Dat “legend” gots’ta unjustly grown down around ha’ reputashun, but modern o’dodox deologians now dig it such not t’be da darn case at all.
or in ebonics it becomes this…
Yo dere iz nahh evidence dat Mary Magdalene wuz uh sexual sinner o’ any consequence. dat “legend” has unjustly grown up around her reputation, but modern orthodox theologians now dig’ such not ta be da case at all slap mah fro!
words become words by usage…🙂
 
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