WOHOOO! Annulment case accepted!

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I just got my paperwork in the mail about 10 minutes ago and couldn’t wait to share. My case for annulment has been accepted by the Tribunal on 5 grounds. 2 listed under Petitioner (me) and 3 listed under Respondent (my ex husband). I was give another 2 pages of questions to answer and an official Petition to sign and send back. I am so excited!!!

The letter sent along in the envelope warns that it will still be between 1 year and 18 months for the First and Second Instance Court decisions to be rendered. Of course, a lot of this has to do with the speed with which witnesses and myself respond. I am going to answer my additional questions as soon as I close this window and then print and mail them on my way to visit a friend. I am going to also notify my witnesses to keep an eye out for their questionnaires and relentlessly harass them until I know they mailed theirs back 😛 I can’t stomach talking to my ex, so I’ll just send him a message on Facebook to let him know to keep a look out and pray he responds quickly.

:bounce::dancing::extrahappy::dancing:
 
this is a weird thing to be celebrating.
Not if you have a (previous) marriage standing between you and being received into the Catholic church, for example. Life can be messy you know. Don’t judge people, it is bad for your complexion 😉

OP,

I pray that all goes well and is over quickly.
 
Not if you have a (previous) marriage standing between you and being received into the Catholic church, for example. Life can be messy you know. Don’t judge people, it is bad for your complexion 😉

OP,

I pray that all goes well and is over quickly.
CM, why do you say Theological Left has “judged people”? S/he was just saying that this is a weird thing to be celebrating and I kinda agree. If you’re going to throw around the ad nauseam “don’t judge” thing, at least use it for the right occasion. :rolleyes:

MJJean, I laud you for taking the proper steps to see to it that your marriage was indeed null and void. It’s much more than many other Catholic couples do who just do the civil divorce thing and run off to get “married” in front of a judge (like my Catholic brother did). God bless!
 
CM, why do you say Theological Left has “judged people”? S/he was just saying that this is a weird thing to be celebrating and I kinda agree. If you’re going to throw around the ad nauseam “don’t judge” thing, at least use it for the right occasion. :rolleyes:

MJJean, I laud you for taking the proper steps to see to it that your marriage was indeed null and void. It’s much more than many other Catholic couples do who just do the civil divorce thing and run off to get “married” in front of a judge (like my Catholic brother did). God bless!
I think that it is not necessary to go and comment in such a way, when this annulment process is obviously very important to the OP. It came across as quite judgmental. I’m sorry, but if I was to go through an annulment and needed it in order to rectify my marriage situation, as well as to be received into the church - as I believe this is the case with the OP - I’d be celebrating too.
 
this is a weird thing to be celebrating.
You should have seen me celebrating when I left divorce court with my final papers in hand. I was literally jumping up and down in the elevator. I was married to a physically and emotionally abusive, lying, cheating, wouldn’t keep a job jerk. Being free of him was one of the happiest days of my life.
Depends whom your married to.
Yup. See above reply, lol.
MJJean, I laud you for taking the proper steps to see to it that your marriage was indeed null and void. It’s much more than many other Catholic couples do who just do the civil divorce thing and run off to get “married” in front of a judge (like my Catholic brother did). God bless!
Unfortunately, that’s sort of what happened. I was Protestant and my husband is a cradle Catholic. We’d both fallen away from Christianity. I was married and in the process of separating when we met. A couple years later my divorce was final and we married in a civil ceremony. We’ve been married 10 years. This past year my husband decided to return to the Church after 20 years away. After a few months, I got curious and I went to my first Mass. I fell in love and so I decided to convert. Of course, I cannot be received into the Church until my youthful marriage is annulled. I applied for annulment and have been anxiously awaiting some kind of word from the Tribunal. It finally came! One step closer to being Catholic and to having my marriage convalidated.
I think that it is not necessary to go and comment in such a way, when this annulment process is obviously very important to the OP. It came across as quite judgmental. I’m sorry, but if I was to go through an annulment and needed it in order to rectify my marriage situation, as well as to be received into the church - as I believe this is the case with the OP - I’d be celebrating too.
That is exactly the case and I am over the moon. I know this is just the beginning and it will take time to finalize everything, but the wheels are turning. I have real hope that I will finally, totally, in all ways free of my mistake and able to be received into the Church and have a truly Sacramental marriage.

Thank you, all, for any prayers and well wishes!
 
I agree with theoleft. I clicked on the thread because the Title was so odd. While the situation is a relief for the OP, there are lives in the balance, there was bad divisions made, there is hurt all around. Hardly a celebration. The OP by her own admission cannot stomach talking to a person she was married to. I wish for the best outcome and Wish the OP the best and hoiliest of outcomes but I will save my pat on the backs and whoo hooos for something that is not so much of a relief (Whew.) and is something of a celebraion, (whoo hooo.)
 
If a marriage should have never taken place it is indeed a reason for the participants to be set free. When a marriage takes place and it is not valid, is like a pebble in the water-everyone is affected by it- not in a good way either. To me, it is another reason the Catholic Faith can help someone back to a normal life. Marriage is not just a piece of paper, neither is divorce.
 
I agree with theoleft. I clicked on the thread because the Title was so odd. While the situation is a relief for the OP, there are lives in the balance, there was bad divisions made, there is hurt all around. Hardly a celebration. The OP by her own admission cannot stomach talking to a person she was married to. I wish for the best outcome and Wish the OP the best and hoiliest of outcomes but I will save my pat on the backs and whoo hooos for something that is not so much of a relief (Whew.) and is something of a celebraion, (whoo hooo.)
Hoosier Daddy, under normal circumstances I can see where you and Theological Left are coming from, I really can. And I hope you’ll both see where I am coming from.

My marriage was entered into at 19 because I had a year old child and thought I owed it to my child and society to marry her father. He was literally physically and mentally abusive for years, cheated on me from less than a month after the civil ceremony until the end in multiple affairs of varying duration, refused to keep a job or pay bills and take care of the children (I had another daughter during the marriage) and left all responsibility to me and/or his mother. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The day we last lived in the same house he was choking me on the stairs until I was close to losing consciousness and had lost control of my bladder. The neighbor called the police, he was removed, social services got involved and told me if I let him come back they would remove my children from my care. I’d already decided to throw him out and not allow him to come back…ever…and I’d already called his mother to come get his things and pick him up from jail if she chose, but hearing a social worker say that was even more of a reality check.

3 months before that, he’d loosened two of my front teeth while hitting me. Those teeth tightened back up, but the root had been damaged and I had painful infections for years before the problem was corrected.

I won’t try to convey the emotional scars.

I am not without blame and I fully acknowledge that fact. I should never have married him in the first place and I should have found a way to either leave or remove him from the home sooner. I’d also had affairs because I was so desperate for anything warm and happy in my life to keep me sane. I made enormous mistakes all the way down the line from when I met him at 16 until I finally left him at 24.

Not to mention he is an un-Baptized person who has been a practicing Pagan most of his life. I would never have recognized my need of God or walked through the door of a Catholic Church had I remained married to him.

I cannot stomach to speak to the man for obvious reasons. And some of it is because in the nearly 13 years since our separation and nearly 11 years since our divorce he has never once paid a penny of court ordered child support, skipped state, didn’t speak to the children for years at a time (making them feel hurt and unloved) and is currently living with his mother (a wonderful woman stretched to the limit) who is supporting him, his new wife, and their two young children as he has not had a job in years.

Now, tell me that you wouldn’t feel absolutely elated when the divorce became final. Or that you wouldn’t celebrate when your priest told you he didn’t see anything resembling a Sacramental marriage and that the annulment wouldn’t be a problem. And tell me you wouldn’t practically throw a party when you got the paperwork from the Tribunal.
If a marriage should have never taken place it is indeed a reason for the participants to be set free. When a marriage takes place and it is not valid, is like a pebble in the water-everyone is affected by it- not in a good way either. To me, it is another reason the Catholic Faith can help someone back to a normal life. Marriage is not just a piece of paper, neither is divorce.
Yes. I once believed the divorce fully dissolved the marriage and that it was all behind me. Imagine how I felt when I discovered the Church still considers me married to that man and that I cannot move forward spiritually until it is resolved. And imagine my shock when I started the initial 19 page questionnaire and realized that I was not nearly as healed as I’d thought! Once I finished those papers and had my chats with our priest I felt 9,000 pounds lighter and so at peace. The Church has been truly a saving grace.
 
Hoosier Daddy, under normal circumstances I can see where you and Theological Left are coming from, I really can. And I hope you’ll both see where I am coming from.

My marriage was entered into at 19 because I had a year old child and thought I owed it to my child and society to marry her father. He was literally physically and mentally abusive for years, cheated on me from less than a month after the civil ceremony until the end in multiple affairs of varying duration, refused to keep a job or pay bills and take care of the children (I had another daughter during the marriage) and left all responsibility to me and/or his mother. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The day we last lived in the same house he was choking me on the stairs until I was close to losing consciousness and had lost control of my bladder. The neighbor called the police, he was removed, social services got involved and told me if I let him come back they would remove my children from my care. I’d already decided to throw him out and not allow him to come back…ever…and I’d already called his mother to come get his things and pick him up from jail if she chose, but hearing a social worker say that was even more of a reality check.

3 months before that, he’d loosened two of my front teeth while hitting me. Those teeth tightened back up, but the root had been damaged and I had painful infections for years before the problem was corrected.

I won’t try to convey the emotional scars.

I am not without blame and I fully acknowledge that fact. I should never have married him in the first place and I should have found a way to either leave or remove him from the home sooner. I’d also had affairs because I was so desperate for anything warm and happy in my life to keep me sane. I made enormous mistakes all the way down the line from when I met him at 16 until I finally left him at 24.

Not to mention he is an un-Baptized person who has been a practicing Pagan most of his life. I would never have recognized my need of God or walked through the door of a Catholic Church had I remained married to him.

I cannot stomach to speak to the man for obvious reasons. And some of it is because in the nearly 13 years since our separation and nearly 11 years since our divorce he has never once paid a penny of court ordered child support, skipped state, didn’t speak to the children for years at a time (making them feel hurt and unloved) and is currently living with his mother (a wonderful woman stretched to the limit) who is supporting him, his new wife, and their two young children as he has not had a job in years.

Now, tell me that you wouldn’t feel absolutely elated when the divorce became final. Or that you wouldn’t celebrate when your priest told you he didn’t see anything resembling a Sacramental marriage and that the annulment wouldn’t be a problem. And tell me you wouldn’t practically throw a party when you got the paperwork from the Tribunal.

Yes. I once believed the divorce fully dissolved the marriage and that it was all behind me. Imagine how I felt when I discovered the Church still considers me married to that man and that I cannot move forward spiritually until it is resolved. And imagine my shock when I started the initial 19 page questionnaire and realized that I was not nearly as healed as I’d thought! Once I finished those papers and had my chats with our priest I felt 9,000 pounds lighter and so at peace. The Church has been truly a saving grace.
OF course I can see where you are coming from. And I know nothing of the details. And honestly I don’t care to. My only point is that the title of the thread probably could have been thought through a little better.
 
Hoosier Daddy, under normal circumstances I can see where you and Theological Left are coming from, I really can. And I hope you’ll both see where I am coming from.

My marriage was entered into at 19 because I had a year old child and thought I owed it to my child and society to marry her father. He was literally physically and mentally abusive for years, cheated on me from less than a month after the civil ceremony until the end in multiple affairs of varying duration, refused to keep a job or pay bills and take care of the children (I had another daughter during the marriage) and left all responsibility to me and/or his mother. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

The day we last lived in the same house he was choking me on the stairs until I was close to losing consciousness and had lost control of my bladder. The neighbor called the police, he was removed, social services got involved and told me if I let him come back they would remove my children from my care. I’d already decided to throw him out and not allow him to come back…ever…and I’d already called his mother to come get his things and pick him up from jail if she chose, but hearing a social worker say that was even more of a reality check.

3 months before that, he’d loosened two of my front teeth while hitting me. Those teeth tightened back up, but the root had been damaged and I had painful infections for years before the problem was corrected.

I won’t try to convey the emotional scars.

I am not without blame and I fully acknowledge that fact. I should never have married him in the first place and I should have found a way to either leave or remove him from the home sooner. I’d also had affairs because I was so desperate for anything warm and happy in my life to keep me sane. I made enormous mistakes all the way down the line from when I met him at 16 until I finally left him at 24.

Not to mention he is an un-Baptized person who has been a practicing Pagan most of his life. I would never have recognized my need of God or walked through the door of a Catholic Church had I remained married to him.

I cannot stomach to speak to the man for obvious reasons. And some of it is because in the nearly 13 years since our separation and nearly 11 years since our divorce he has never once paid a penny of court ordered child support, skipped state, didn’t speak to the children for years at a time (making them feel hurt and unloved) and is currently living with his mother (a wonderful woman stretched to the limit) who is supporting him, his new wife, and their two young children as he has not had a job in years.

Now, tell me that you wouldn’t feel absolutely elated when the divorce became final. Or that you wouldn’t celebrate when your priest told you he didn’t see anything resembling a Sacramental marriage and that the annulment wouldn’t be a problem. And tell me you wouldn’t practically throw a party when you got the paperwork from the Tribunal.

Yes. I once believed the divorce fully dissolved the marriage and that it was all behind me. Imagine how I felt when I discovered the Church still considers me married to that man and that I cannot move forward spiritually until it is resolved. And imagine my shock when I started the initial 19 page questionnaire and realized that I was not nearly as healed as I’d thought! Once I finished those papers and had my chats with our priest I felt 9,000 pounds lighter and so at peace. The Church has been truly a saving grace.
I don’t doubt that you suffered, and now we learn that chidlren have also suffered. (Another reason whoo hooo is inappropriate.
I want to point out that this is why the details do not matter. No matter how much of a son of a you know what someone is that has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage.
If the deciding factor was that someone treated someone awful then almost every marriage would be null.

For your piece of mind and future life. I hope there was something that did not make this a valid marriage. I really do.

One final question. And I know this will not end well. I know you will respond with something and I know there is no way this ends well for me in this discussion. But here is what I do not understand. The man tried to murder you and you are complaining that he was not involved with his kids for a while!?
Something does not add up.

But like I said, I don’t really care. I just thought the title was a little off color.
 
You’re “excited” over an annulment? Even if your first marriage was indeed invalid, I am disgusted. That is definitely not something that merits a reaction like yours.
 
May God bless you and your family and may you experience the joy that accompanies full participation in the sacraments.
May the father of your children find his way home to Our Lord. Amen.
Prayers of Thanksgiving will be offered at Mass tomorrow for your journey home.
jt
 
I raise my glass to you! I does feel weird to say congratulations…but CONGRATULATIONS! 😃

I can only imagine how much weight this removes from your shoulders. Not gonna lie…I’d be doing the happy dance too if I needed this kind of closure to a painful chapter of my life.
 
I wish you the best OP. I understand your feelings exactly. Prepare yourself for a long and trying process–but it’s worth it I think.

I understand the pain and limbo a divorced party can be left in. You did everything you throughout was right, tried to do the good thing, were betrayed, left, and now alone (there is no support system in the Church for those like us). Truly, it feels like being the black sheep of the flock… It’s like you are punished all over again and fellow Catholics who are supposed to be understanding and comforting end up coming across as judgmental. The irony is all the while you (and I) did and are doing everything the Church tells us to do.

While my marriage wasn’t abusive like yours, my husband cheated on me from the time we were engaged and throughout the marriage… with other men. Of course, I didn’t know at the time I married him. He eventually left me and is openly homosexual now.

It’s a long process OP and it’s trying. It can be lonely too. And you will run into harsh judgements. Just keep your head up and keep carrying that cross. For what it’s worth, I actually just got a letter saying the tribunal found my marriage null and void, but my Ex has 15 days to petition. He won’t. He hasn’t participated in the process at all. If he doesn’t, then it’s ratified within 2-3 months. So I am almost there. It’s been 18 months so far (3 years if you count the day my Ex left me).

By the way, praying to the Holy Mother gave me strength during this time. I am ashamed to admit near the end, after not hearing from the Tribunal for months, my faith started to waver and I stopped. Writing all this reminds me that I should again.
 
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