Women and Dress

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Women do not have any elevated or special burden with regard to modesty.
Perhaps. This isn’t about freedom or rights it is about what one ought to do. When I was in High School my uncle who was a priest took me to the baseball game. Major league. We parked in a poor area, My uncle said we better move everything in the car to the trunk and lock the car. We don’t want to temp anyone.
 
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Of course that is true. AND (not “but” - this is not a redirection of attention from “the man’s” responsibilities, it is a completion of the list to include also that of the woman) - so, and it is true that the woman must carry her own responsibilities in this and in all matters.

Yes, the man is the head of the household, the domestic church, and the ultimate leaders in the universal Church. It has been observed that the woman is the heart of the domestic church, and in one sense the human heart of the universal Church as well, the model of which being Mary the Holy Mother of Jesus and of the Church. Mary is also the icon of the Church in the Church’s eschatological perfection - and thus a model not only for all, generally, in the Church but especially for women: Mary is for the universal Church what “the woman” is for the domestic church.

Certainly such a model as Mary is a demanding - and should be an inspiring - model for all women, in the particular way that women are gifted and called to be “mother” toward and for the good of all (children, men, and other women). Such a model ought to call all women to embrace all good and holy virtues, including of course modesty, all virtues being appropriate for living the holy vocation of motherhood, in human interactions.

And before the reader immediately wants to remind me “yes but what about what men ought to do” - I ask you women to really listen to this concerning the vocation of the woman, and if you see truth in it, don’t be afraid to seek to live it. The world needs holy women. And yes, holy men.
 
Yes we should all look up to Mary and other great Saints. It is in their interior virtues that makes them who they are.

Please don’t misuse Our Blessed Mary as a point to push home a position in an argument.

As we all know, men, being the created by God, to be so passionate about the procreation of our species, would find a woman in a burka incredibly enticing if all women his entire life, wore burkas.

As Jesus says cut your hand off of it’s causing you offence.
Jesus also recommends discipline and keeping our eyes focussed on God.
 
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Women do not have any elevated or special burden with regard to modesty.
Perhaps. This isn’t about freedom or rights it is about what one ought to do. When I was in High School my uncle who was a priest took me to the baseball game. Major league. We parked in a poor area, My uncle said we better move everything in the car to the trunk and lock the car. We don’t want to temp anyone.
My body is not equivalent to an unlocked car. This sounds like victim blaming in coming.
 
Do you think I am “misusing” the Blessed Mother Mary? What do you see in my posts that suggests that to you? I would certainly want to know, if that be correct.
 
I refer you back to my previous comment:
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Men need to maintain custody of their eyes and take responsibility for their own thoughts and actions just as women must maintain custody of their eyes and take responsibility for their thoughts and actions.
 
In addition, women and men need to be aware that they can lead others into sin and should avoid doing so.
 
Women know that. Do men know their bodies can cause women to lust and dress accordingly?
Baggy pants would be appropriate.
 
There was something I was told on an old thread - there’s a difference between those who are stumbling, and those who are jumping in with both feet.

The problem for many of us is that as women, there are men who are seeking an excuse. If a man has set his mind to objectify women, no amount of modesty on her part will stop him. Our mere visibility in public is his excuse to sin. But we still get pressured to cover more and more and more in a society that often teaches men that it’s ok to objectify women.
 
If wearing baggy pants, make sure it begins at the waist and not below it.

Not all of you are rappers.
 
I do the best I can, I have a 42" waist, never ware shorts or go without a shirt. 😮
 
I think Bermuda shorts are fine. Hairy knees do nothing for me but that is just me.
 
Sorry, your body can be a source of temptation.
And literally nothing I do can stop that, or “lock” the proverbial car that you decided was appropriate to equate womens bodies to.

I have been catcalled and sexually harassed while wearing the following;
  • Firstly I never wear makeup, take that as a give in all following attire set ups
  • When I was 11 and walking to hockey wearing knee length shorts, football boots and a baggy t-shirt
  • When I was 11 - 17 and wearing my school’s unisex school uniform; blue polo shirt, navy blue cargo shorts that go to the knee
  • When I was wearing mens cargo pants, a long sleeve black shirt and a trench coat
  • When I was wearing a costume for a play where I was playing a knight in armour (note: Not sexy armour. I had three different men offer to help take it off)
  • When I was wearing business formal; black slacks, red blouse.
I am a tomboy, though admittedly until recently I had long hair. But I prefer baggy clothes that cover a lot of me and while I’m not ugly I’m not conventionally pretty, I carry a bit of extra weight but also have muscle mass from gym.

My body is not a source of temptation unless people decide to make it one; and that is entirely and utterly on them. Not on me. My body is not a frikken unlocked car.
 
Harlot! Might I recommend the…
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Let’s review the requirements for the

🥔 Catholic 2-Piece Potato Sack Ensemble 🥔
  • one sack with only 3 MODEST cuts: neck hole and arm holes
  • a long sleeve turtleneck must be worn underneath to ensure modesty.
  • one sack with the bottom cut off. Safety pins used to ensure it stay in place!
  • opaque leggings must be worn underneath to ensure modesty
  • military-style boots must be worn lest the ankles show and NO HEELS.
  • this ensemble must be loose fitting NO TAILORING!
  • potato sacks should be at least 24” x 40”
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Its a two way street, but most of the time its the fault of the one who has no control over their eyes. Unless one intentionally wears revealing clothing, but still.
 
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