Goodness, are those the only functions I’m allowed? Guess I’m not allowed to pray, go to Mass, perform corporal or spiritual deeds of mercy, drive a car, vote, express my opinion, or even love my neighbor.
On the contrary. She has categorical, explicit, spiritual truths given to her in the Deposit of the Faith to guard the Sacrament of Holy Orders as she has received it.
What is the basis for assuming, since there are indeed differences in the physical aspects of the male and female persons, that there are no differences in the souls? And “Tradition” (properly spelled in the Catholic context with a capital T, to distinguish it from mere custom), being a part of the Deposit of the Faith, is far from “nothing.”
Jesus Christ, God the Son, became a human male, and right now brings humanity into the full life of the Holy Trinity, being fully man and fully God.
Right on, Brendan
I see with a statement like that your obviously not running for election.
“Our Mother who art in heaven” is nothing less than blasphemy! Much harm has been done to the Faith by the injudicious use of so-called “inclusive language.” Using words that reflect all are being addressed is one thing. Feminine references to God, which some inclusive language types have tried to smuggle in are disobedient abominations.
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I don’t get the point of your reference to these items.
Let me help with the apparent ambiguity expressed by the phrase, “the (Catholic?) New Age movement.” Just as “Catholics For a Free Choice” aren’t Catholic, so too New Age movements are not Catholic, even if some Catholics blunder into them. When they do so, they step away from full communion with the Church, no matter who they are.
Would not a more precise description of a “Catholic Wiccan” be “PAGAN”? http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon7.gif
No one is asking you to “Just believe us”. We are telling you that if you assert you are Catholic you MUST embrace the teachings of the Church. It is an infallible teachng of the Church that only men can be Priests. That doctrine can no more be changed than you can give me a womb.
I don’t think that anyone is trying to demonstrate anything other than the fact that orthodox Catholics follow Catholic doctrine. Non believers, pagans, atheists, protestants and people who profess to all faiths and yet no faith are not bound by Catholic dogma. I think that you have read some heterodox Catholics post to this thread. You are either Catholic or you are something else. There are many who use the term Catholic and are somwhat less. I find it sad that such catholics (note lower case) only serve to confuse others when they speak as Catholics. Some who have doctrinal issues with the Church have tried to neuter God in a futile attempt to water down tradition and dogma. The Trinity is composed of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That is key to the Catholic faith. It is a bit hard to neuter Father and Son. What would be the purpose of trying? Genitalia is not a point of discussion here. Again, it is just a futile attempt to confuse a Catholic doctrinal point by someone who may have no desire to believe anyway.
How do you know for sure that it is infallible? It is the present authoratative and papal teaching, but I don’t think that all Catholic theologians say it is infallible. For example, not everything that the Pope says is infallible. Also, at our local Church, the priest has come out in favor of women priests. Why would he do so? And in Australia, we have the following (courtesy of Father Ambrose):
Both John Paul the Great and B16 have stated that they could not change the doctrine if they wanted to. The Magestrium has spoken.
Indeed they have. S123 puts a lot of stock, it seems, in the reports, briefs, or whatever that come out of meetings of priests and academics. Perhaps it is good to note that neither priests, nor academics by virtue of thier academic standing, exercise the Church’s Magisterium. And unlike, say, some portions of the Anglican Communion, truth has nothing to do with a majority vote in the Catholic Church.
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