Women lectors

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Well now, this thread is an example of how the reputation system doesn’t work.

I state a fact of church teaching and get the following comment which I can only assume is a disapproval (I can’t figure out how to tell).

get a clue

Now all I am doing is stateing Church Teaching.

Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against women reading the epistle (as we do not have an Old Testament reading in the Divine Liturgy). What I am against is them taking the title of a minor order. They are readers, even men are readers unless the bishop has elevated them to the minor order of lector.

I am against the bluring of the lines between clergy and laity.

I will go on to say that I am against female altar servers but then this is not an issue as they are not allowed in the Byzantine Churches. Those that have them are “breaking the rules.”
 
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LabChick:
I know…let’s “Ask an Apologist!” 🙂

I’ve posed the question. I’m interested in seeing how they respond.
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I have looked and cannot find the above post or answer. When you get the answer please post it. I will keep looking.
 
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Michael:
I have looked and cannot find the above post or answer. When you get the answer please post it. I will keep looking.
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I don’t think they’ve gotten to it yet or might be doing some research. I will post the answer when it is available.

This question was answered by Jimmy Akin on Thursday’s (7/22) edition of Catholic Answers Live if you’d like to listen to the archived recording and hear what he had to say. I could summarize, but I wouldn’t do it justice!
 
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LabChick:
I don’t think they’ve gotten to it yet or might be doing some research. I will post the answer when it is available.

This question was answered by Jimmy Akin on Thursday’s (7/22) edition of Catholic Answers Live if you’d like to listen to the archived recording and hear what he had to say. I could summarize, but I wouldn’t do it justice!
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I heard this answer and I think it had more to do with the issue of St Paul’s admonition that women be silent in church and the culture of the time as compared to the culture of today.

He used the term lector in its understanding of today in the Latin Church, in that any one who reads the readings is a lector rather than a lector as a minor order that a man is elevated to by this bishop.
 
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LabChick:
This question was answered by Jimmy Akin on Thursday’s (7/22) edition of Catholic Answers Live if you’d like to listen to the archived recording and hear what he had to say. I could summarize, but I wouldn’t do it justice!
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Is there a way to record these from the computer to a CD. I use this site from work and All radio and such is blocked by my company. I thought maybe I could record them on my home computer and then bring the disk to work and listen during the day. Thanks if anyone know how to do this. :confused:
 
Here’s the answer from the apologist.
Michelle Arnold:
According to canon law, only laymen can be permanently installed as lectors:

Can. 230 §1 Lay men [Latin, viri] whose age and talents meet the requirements prescribed by decree of the Episcopal Conference, can be given the stable ministry of lector and of acolyte, through the prescribed liturgical rite. This conferral of ministry does not, however, give them a right to sustenance or remuneration from the Church.

Any layperson, male or female, can serve as a lector by temporary deputation:

Can. 230 §2 Lay people can receive a temporary assignment to the role of lector in liturgical actions. Likewise, all lay people can exercise the roles of commentator, cantor or other such, in accordance with the law.

Paul’s injunction in First Corinthians (14:34, not 15:34) is usually considered to be a disciplinary measure. This understanding is based upon 1 Cor. 11:5-13 where the apostle Paul assumes that there are circumstances in which women speak in church:

But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled brings shame upon her head, for it is one and the same thing as if she had had her head shaved (v. 5).

This passage is part of a section on problems in the liturgy in the churches in Corinth, so we can deduce that Paul is working with the assumption that a woman is praying and prophesying during the liturgy. If that is the case, then he obviously doesn’t expect a woman never to speak in church, only to follow a disciplinary injunction that he has given. Disciplinary injunctions are changeable, so later generations of properly-constituted ecclesial authorities could allow women to serve as lectors.
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There you have it! 🙂
 
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Michael:
Is there a way to record these from the computer to a CD. I use this site from work and All radio and such is blocked by my company. I thought maybe I could record them on my home computer and then bring the disk to work and listen during the day. Thanks if anyone know how to do this. :confused:
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Hmmm…a program like Easy CD Creator might work. If you saved the show to your computer and then burnt it onto a CD as a data file, you could probably play it from another computer.

I really don’t know much about computers! :hmmm:
 
regardless of ‘gender’ (unbeknownst and, God Willling, unassumed by any here, for it is irrelevant in many matters, Lord Have Mercy), i am happy, by God, to be a ‘lay person’ Blessed with the ‘office’ of lector (God Willing) in this church, and to be able to give testimonies and share God with others online, etc…according to the catechism, this may be, God Willing, permanent:
scborromeo.org/ccc/para/903.htm (thanks be to GOD)

as for paul, Inspired as he was, and PLGB to him, he’s not GOD (not saying he’s wrong or right ever, not my place to judge, that’s God/Word/Scripture, and he says so much good stuff and thankfully shared God among the gentiles, apologies for ‘rabblerousing’ LORD Have Mercy), God’s Spirit, as we’ve, or at least i’ve, seen in testimonies of missionaries and saints alike, ‘sees’ the heart, and soul, God Knows His Plans And They’re Great, and if one’s called as an acolyte or lector, well by all means then, gender’s not the point…

and besides, the lector speaks on God’s Word, And His Inspiration/Testimony therewith, and allows His Spirit to flow with it, God Willing, in Truth, so it’s not a matter of ‘male or female speaking’, GOD Speaks to us through people Chosen to read, to speak

@panis; check the catechism’s line, and even Biblically (thanks someone who brought up a ref. online about God’s Word to joel about sons+daughters prophesying, etc., PLGB), women and men that do these things are both acolytes/servers and lectors/readers, not separate, discriminated, etc. (LORD Have Mercy, that i be right in what i present here, PLGB)…and 1 cor 11 (thanks google, usccb naB, etc., and thanks be to GOD) talks about women…praying and prophesying o.Ot an odd conundrum 3 chapters prior if taken strictly literally. and, also in 1 cor 14 (thanks be to GOD): 31
For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged.
that doesn’t specify genders or anything, but says if By God someone has something to share The LORD, well, ‘get to it’ basically, PLGB

also thanks whoever brought up the ‘no jew nor greek’,etc. Passage (gal.3 thanks to that person, google, usccb naB, and thanks be to GOD) PLGB y’all
 
PLGB???

polylactiglucose botulism?

puzzle lover’s gift bag?

Might I ask what this acronym means?
 
Panis_Angelicas said:
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Acolyte and Lector are lay ministries, but are open to males only. (An Acolyte or Lector may be a seminarian, but doesn’t have to be studying for the priesthood or diaconate.)

Females may serve as servers or readers,:yup: not Acolytes or Lectors.:tsktsk:

Pax Christi. <>< :love:

So besides the title i.e. “reader” or “Lector”, what is the difference in their function in the Liturgy?
 
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