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Recently the Latin Church was hit by waves of accusations and protests about pedophilia. Many people are also pressing the Church to allow women and homosexuals to serve as priests. Do these things happen in the Eastern churches (Catholic and Orthodox). Do women and gay men press the Church to delcare their priesthood valid? Are there well known child abuse cases in the Eastern churches>
 
Well, there are sex abuse cases in many Protestant Churches

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Roman Catholicism gets more pressure than Eastern Catholicism, because Roman Catholicism is more well known
 
I just want to know if the Eastern churches are plagued by these things like their Latin brethren.
 
PastorBonus said:
Recently the Latin Church was hit by waves of accusations and protests about pedophilia. Many people are also pressing the Church to allow women and homosexuals to serve as priests. Do these things happen in the Eastern churches (Catholic and Orthodox). Do women and gay men press the Church to delcare their priesthood valid? Are there well known child abuse cases in the Eastern churches>
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The pedophilia scandal happened BECAUSE of homosexual priests. It is idiotic for the masses to demand homosexuals be allowed Priests and then decry young males being assaulted. The Catholic Church is of the lowest percentage for child sex abuse out of any other religion, any other group. Protestants (collectively) abuse at a higher percentile (most of whom are married). Public school teachers abuse at higher rates than Catholic Priests (yet there is no outcry to refuse children access to public school). Family members abuse at the highest rates. Pedophilia is not a Catholic Priest problem but a human problem. One that has existed as long as humanity has.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
The Catholic Church is of the lowest percentage for child sex abuse out of any other religion, any other group. Protestants (collectively) abuse at a higher percentile (most of whom are married). Public school teachers abuse at higher rates than Catholic Priests (yet there is no outcry to refuse children access to public school). Family members abuse at the highest rates. Pedophilia is not a Catholic Priest problem but a human problem. One that has existed as long as humanity has.
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Wow. Mind = blown. If only the facts were out more like this.
 
This isn’t a thread to discuss pedophilia, I just want to know if the Eastern churches are plagued by these things that are typically associated with the Western churches.I’m especially interested in the women priests issue and want to know if many Eastern Christians are pressing their leaders to allow women to be ordained
 
My friends from school who want women ordination wouldn’t step into an Eastern Church. They can’t understand why I’m there. That might be a reason if it’s lower, they move to the RC parishes because the Eastern Churches are ‘too patriarchal’.
 
  • I just want to know if the Eastern churches are plagued by these things that are typically associated with the Western churches.I’m especially interested in the women priests issue and want to know if many Eastern Christians are pressing their leaders to allow women to be ordained*
I would think that the Eastern Church is in a culture where women are not so “liberated” that they would even speak out, and definitely, gay men are not coming out of the closet because of culture. The Western culture is far more liberal in their freedom of speech and all, this may not be a freedom those would bare to the outside world.
 
LoL, Mr. Pickett, my wife studied at Oxford, and I will readily admit she is more intelligent than I am. Someone who thinks Eastern women aren’t able to speak up about their opinions doesn’t know any Eastern women. Just because a woman understands there are different roles for men and women doesn’t mean she’s unable to “speak out.” I’ve heard an intelligent, college educated woman (not my wife) rant about the stupidity of women clergy before. Also, just FYI, we have quite a few churches in the “West” and in some places in the East homosexuality is, from what I hear, a worse problem than it is in the West.

To the OP, before I became Orthodox I looked into it. I could not find a single organization supporting women’s ordination in Orthodoxy. I may vaguely remember finding a single article? Definitely nothing like the “Women’s Priest Movement” found in RCism. My priest was shocked at the very idea. I’ve never seen any advocacy for a gay priesthood outside of allowing celibate gay men to become hieromonks.

As to the pedophilia I didn’t look into it, but I imagine it would be a bit smaller if for no other reason than we’re a smaller church?
 
PastorBonus said:
This isn’t a thread to discuss pedophilia, I just want to know if the Eastern churches are plagued by these things that are typically associated with the Western churches.I’m especially interested in the women priests issue and want to know if many Eastern Christians are pressing their leaders to allow women to be ordained
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For better or for worse, Eastern Christianity in all its forms is still relatively unknown to the rather ignorant secular west. As such, they’ve been able to stay under-the-radar for centuries in a way the Latin Church hasn’t been able to.

Even before the secularization of the modern and postmodern west, this was the case in western civilization. There’s a reason the Orthodox Churches never underwent their own version of the Protestant Reformation - they tended to exist most strongly in cultural regions and contexts separate from the predominant currents of western thought and action. I would guess, for instance, that the Oriental Orthodox experience is dominated by co-existing with an Islamic majority. Different context, different challenges.

That’s why I think you just don’t see such vehement clamoring for women’s ordination, approval of homosexuality, etc. in eastern Christian churches.
 
PastorBonus said:
This isn’t a thread to discuss pedophilia, I just want to know if the Eastern churches are plagued by these things that are typically associated with the Western churches.I’m especially interested in the women priests issue and want to know if many Eastern Christians are pressing their leaders to allow women to be ordained
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There may be individual women within the Eastern churches who say that women should become priests; but not what you’d call an organized movement.

I have, however, heard some people complain about the fact that the Melkite churches permit altar girls. Perhaps Peter J could speak to that, if he’s around. 🙂
 
theistgal said:
There may be individual women within the Eastern churches who say that women should become priests; but not what you’d call an organized movement.

I have, however, heard some people complain about the fact that the Melkite churches permit altar girls. Perhaps Peter J could speak to that, if he’s around. 🙂
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I’m afraid not. (Not that I’m not around, but I don’t know if I can speak to that. I’ve never seen an altar girl in a Melkite parish, although I have seen female lectors.)
 
Peter_J said:
I’m afraid not. (Not that I’m not around, but I don’t know if I can speak to that. I’ve never seen an altar girl in a Melkite parish, although I have seen female lectors.)
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There are in the Territories and in South America. 😦
 
Peter_J said:
I’m afraid not. (Not that I’m not around, but I don’t know if I can speak to that. I’ve never seen an altar girl in a Melkite parish, although I have seen female lectors.)
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They definitely have them at St. Anne’s Melkite Church in North Hollywood, CA.
 
Denho said:
There are in the Territories and in South America. 😦
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Ah. I hadn’t heard that before (although I did know there a lot of Melkites – and Maronites for that matter – in South America).
 
First: homosexuality doesn’t make you a pedophile.

Second: I thought there were already chaste gay priests, east and west.
 
The west definitely has chaste gay priests; although there are some Catholics who aren’t too keen on it, since a homosexual[ly-oriented] seminarian doesn’t give up marriage in the same sense that a straight seminarian gives it up.
 
To answer the OP’s question, I don’t think the Eastern churches are plagued by the same scandals as the Latin right has.

However, I do want to note that the scandal isn’t about the abuse per se, but rather is about the abuse being covered-up and the abusers, at times, moved to new parishes where they endanger unsuspecting parishioners.

Also, anyone who considers molestation of a boy by an adult male with being gay (being gay meaning that one is primarily attracted to adults of the same-sex over adults of the opposite-sex) should read this article which is representative of the opinion of most psychologists who have studied this issue.
 
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