Women sacristans?

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I’m interested in opinions on this matter… I was discussing the use of women sacristans with some friends who where firmly against it-- feeling that, like altar serving, it should be restricted to males only.

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I’m interested in opinions on this matter… I was discussing the use of women sacristans with some friends who where firmly against it-- feeling that, like altar serving, it should be restricted to males only.

Thoughts?
totally agree with you friend
 
From at least 1954 through at least 1960 the sacristan at my parish was a woman.
 
I’m interested in opinions on this matter… I was discussing the use of women sacristans with some friends who where firmly against it-- feeling that, like altar serving, it should be restricted to males only.

Thoughts?
Our sacristan is a woman, and a more devout faithful woman you are unlikely to find. She took on the job because nobody else would do it. It’s been done by women in our parish since 1958 when the parish was established. Right now she’d like to retire but she can’t find anyone to replace her.
 
I’m interested in opinions on this matter… I was discussing the use of women sacristans with some friends who where firmly against it-- feeling that, like altar serving, it should be restricted to males only.

Thoughts?
The Church does not even so much as hint about the preference of men over women when it comes to sacristans or sextons.
 
In convents, where there are no men, women have always served as sacristians.
 
my opinion is of no earthly use on this issue, and neither is the opinion of any other poster. what is Catholic Church discipline? find something in writing that prohibits women from serving in this role and I will get excited, until then, an opinion and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee
 
why do you think that woman should be allowed to do this??
Even the 1917 Code of Canon Law allowed women to be sacristans. I haven’t yet been in a parish where the sacristan was a man. What is it about that ministry that you think should be reserved for men?
 
Even the 1917 Code of Canon Law allowed women to be sacristans.
Please provide the appropriate citation.
What is it about that ministry that you think should be reserved for men?
As is the case for altar boys, the position of sacristan is traditionally seen as a breeding ground for priestly vocations. Sacristan → Acolyte → Deacon → Priest.

Also, a woman will not be able to purify the sacred vessels – a fundamental duty of any sacristan. (Particularly problematic at Masses that use a dozen chalices.)
 
Also, a woman will not be able to purify the sacred vessels – a fundamental duty of any sacristan. (Particularly problematic at Masses that use a dozen chalices.)
Purifying the vessels is a fundamental duty of any priest (and possibly a deacon), and it is a function that has been extended to acolytes, though it is not fundamental to their order. AFTER they have been purified, current discipline allows anyone to wash them, though it would seem especially appropriate to restrict contact with the sacred vessels to those in some sort of (not necessarily holy-) orders. As this can be hard to do, the next best thing, as with altar boys, would be to restrict contact to those who could hold orders.

For those wondering why the thread question even exists, here is the description of the office from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

…The Decretals of Gregory IX (lib. I, tit. xxvi, "De officio sacristæ speak of the sacristan as if he had an honourable office attached to a certain benefice, and say that his duty was to care for the sacred vessels, vestments, lights, etc. …The “Cæremoniale episcoporum” prescribed that in cathedral and collegiate churches the sacristan should be a priest, and describes his duties in regard to the sacristy, the Blessed Eucharist, the baptismal font, the holy oils, the sacred relics, the decoration of the church for the different seasons and feasts, the preparation of what is necessary for the various ceremonies, the pregustation in pontifical Mass, the ringing of the church bells, the preservation of order in the church, and the distribution of Masses; and …The Council of Trent desired that, according to the old canons, clerics should hold such offices; but in most churches, on account of the difficulty or impossibility of obtaining clerics, laymen perform many of the duties of the sacristan and under-sacristan.
newadvent.org/cathen/13322a.htm
 
Even the 1917 Code of Canon Law allowed women to be sacristans. I haven’t yet been in a parish where the sacristan was a man. What is it about that ministry that you think should be reserved for men?
The question was what do you think…I gave my reply to that question.
I know it is not stated anywhere that a woman cant hold the position it is just my preference not to see them hold it…just as it is my preference not to see EHMC’s:D

I do agree with the view point of Lepanto and Hofer though!
 
Also, a woman will not be able to purify the sacred vessels – a fundamental duty of any sacristan. (Particularly problematic at Masses that use a dozen chalices.)
this is not a fundamental duty of the sacristan, it is the duty of the celebrant. it is the duty of the sacristan to keep the chalices and other plate clean after they have been purified.
 
Up until the last century sacristans were usually priests.

Altar societies still exist (at least in my parish) and much of their duties cross over into the sacristan job…

With that in mind. I believe a sacristan is to do their duty in silence and have a very very behind the scenes approach. Their duties should be done long before and long after people show up for Mass…this will help prevent any desire to look important and want to be “on stage”.They have an important job…if done correctly most people will not even know who the sacristan is…

Unlike my opinion of female altar servers…I see nothing wrong with female sacristans…perhaps this is a good chance to get a young girl away from the altar boy corps and enlisted into the altar society.
 
… it would seem especially appropriate to restrict contact with the sacred vessels to those in some sort of (not necessarily holy-) orders. As this can be hard to do, the next best thing, as with altar boys, would be to restrict contact to those who could hold orders.
Why? Anyone can wash the vessels. Is there something wrong with women such that they should not handle them? Or are you saying that washing the vessels would lead to more vocations?

I have never heard of a gender restriction on sacristans and can’t imagine why there would be one.
 
Why? Anyone can wash the vessels. Is there something wrong with women such that they should not handle them? Or are you saying that washing the vessels would lead to more vocations?

I have never heard of a gender restriction on sacristans and can’t imagine why there would be one.
I am thinking some are confusing Purifying vessels and washing them.

Only a priest, Deacon, or insitituted acolyte may purify the sacred vessels after communion. (purification is fyi is performing the ablutions following communion)

Since only men can be priests, deacons and acolytes then they are the only ones who can do the ablutions.

However washing the sacred vessels can be what is done long after mass and after the ablutions are done. And anyone can do that.
 
I’m interested in opinions on this matter… I was discussing the use of women sacristans with some friends who where firmly against it-- feeling that, like altar serving, it should be restricted to males only.

Thoughts?
There is nothing wrong with it. It is pretty common to see them in this ministry in the region. Women can be just as holy and do the ministry just as well. I hope the practice continues well into the future.
 
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