) believers are to be on guard against letting things not for God, but actively against God, be ‘preached’ in the church. Over and over, sometimes by men as ‘leaders’, other times by women, most often the majority of the faithful ‘followers’, these cycles come back and the people’s ‘itching ears’ hear the newest ‘spin’ on the same old sins. . .Thanks for your insight, it was very informational.As a woman, I’d say the key is context.
From what I have read, in the time and in the areas where St. Paul was addressing his letters, there had been ‘recent’ movements (particularly among the “Greek” populations) where women had been attempting to ‘take over’ the ceremonies, and not for good. St. Paul is warning the believers, not that women per se are not ‘fit to speak’, but that in the circumstances going on which seem to happen in cycles (ever notice there is no new heresy, no real new sin, but only new ‘names’???
Pride did Eve in once, and it is still IMO the chief vice that women fall victim to today. Adam, OTOH, allowed sloth (that laissez-faire attitude–hey, she’s got the apple, it must be okay, sure looks tasty) to conquer him and again, IMO that is the chief vice that men fall victim to.
I’m not offended by St. Paul, far from it. Women and men are different. There is a time, and a place, and an individual ‘role’ that God gives every one of us. St. Paul addresses this further when he speaks of every part of the body being ‘part’ of the body, and that “if I am a hand and not a foot, I do not thereby say that I am not of the body.”
I just say no whenever I am asked to read. Can’t believe they are still askin’ after all those no’s.I am worried about the Scripture verse that says that women are not aloud to speak in the Church. I don’t know how to react to that. This is not an attempt to put any women down, but how do we react to St. Paul’s statement without offending the ladies?
You should just tell them you don’t believe in the feminization of the altar. That should keep them occupied enough that they won’t ask for at least awhile if ever (or at least until they find out what you mean).
Already done that. Told a former nun who married a former priest. (I think they eloped from the orders together). She doesn’t talk to me anymore.You should just tell them you don’t believe in the feminization of the altar. That should keep them occupied enough that they won’t ask for at least awhile if ever (or at least until they find out what you mean).
Well then, it’s surprising that they ask you at all anymore. This one always works for me.
They were desperate. Shoulda thought to ask some of the men, IMO.Well then, it’s surprising that they ask you at all anymore. This one always works for me.
If yur not wearin a headcovering what’s to worry about?I am worried about the Scripture verse that says that women are not aloud to speak in the Church. I don’t know how to react to that. This is not an attempt to put any women down, but how do we react to St. Paul’s statement without offending the ladies?
I’m uncomfortable too, with all the roles that women have in the Church today, and this often places me at odds on these forums with other people who have no problem with it. I personally always receive Communion from the priest, and in my parish, only the priest gives out the hosts, so that isn’t a problem. I get overwhelmed at all the women in the sanctuary, and that is one reason I drive so far to attend the TLM once a month. It’s an oasis of peace, to be sure.