Word became flesh?!!!

[planten]

We have gone through this before. I know that we have, but I will try to get through to you again.

This is not a bad website to look at.

bprc.org/topics/fulfill.html

Here is the deal. Jesus fulfilled at least several hundred prophacies from the OT, possibly thousands. The Law of Moses has nothing to do with it.

I guess that there are none so blind as those who will not see

** Nevermind. The law of Moses will take importance in our discussions. But we leave it for the moment.

I would be much surprised if you could present anything from the OT with sufficient proof to link it with Jesus. I would not go with any sentimental wishful beliefs. Rather proper real meanings descriptive will be needed. So you are welcome to teach us the proofs about Jesus from the OT. Welcome. Get your friends together for that. No harm. I am all ears.**

 

[agangbern]

There is a lot that Paarsurrey cannot understand, and yet whatever we tell him, somehow or some way he all of a sudden becomes an expert.

Expert with quotation marks, like this “expert”!

 

[agangbern]

Guess what? IF the Bible is not to be trusted, there is no reason to accept the Qur’an. By discounting the Bible, you reduce its characters to simple mythology. That makes the Qur’an more mythology since it uses the same names and some of the same events.

The truth is: Even if they would accept the bible as true, that would not make their Quran also true! On the contrary, their acceptance if they do of the OT would only confirm that their Quran is pure fiction, a story of make-believe. 5:21 of their Quran is proof of that.

 

[agangbern]

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I would be much surprised if you could present anything from the OT with sufficient proof to link it with Jesus. I would not go with any sentimental wishful beliefs. Rather proper real meanings descriptive will be needed. So you are welcome to teach us the proofs about Jesus from the OT. Welcome. Get your friends together for that. No harm. I am all ears.**

You would be surprised, but I would be surprised too if you would be honest to admit your surprise.

“anything from the OT with sufficient proof to link it with Jesus”? Here is one:

Psalms 22:18, “They divide my garments among them, and for my vesture they cast lots.” This was fulfilled with Jesus when the soldiers divided his garments into four parts and cast lots for his tunic on the day He was hanging on the cross in John 19:23-24.

There are many more passages in the OT that were fulfilled with Jesus and therefore linked with Him. But one is enough for your surprise.

 

[agangbern]

Hi

I love Jesus as I do love Adam, Moses, and John the Baptist; all were naturally born of women, having the same flesh and bones mixtures, in my opinion.

Thanks

Another big lie! It is absolutely not true that Adam, Moses, and John the Baptist, all were naturally born of women. For one thing sure: Adam was not born of a woman. He was formed from the ground by God Himself and God breathed into him.

Please stop your lies here!

 

[Benadam]

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You might have spoken many words in your life. Did you ever see that any of your Word has become flesh? Your Word would have even never smelt like flesh. It is your tongue and lips and your throat made of flesh that help one to make words, and of course the teeth made of bones, that helps to make the words. The reverse phenomenon never happens, in my opinion.

:ehh:

God eternally generates Cognizance of Himself. This ‘knowing’ of God’s self by God Himself is of such distinction bevcause the object of knowing is God in person and the knower is God and another person that is God knowing God.

God eternally generates Cognizance of Himself and this person is God knowing God and is His Word and being a person distinct from the divine person known can become a human person.

 

[ralphinal]

** Nevermind. The law of Moses will take importance in our discussions. But we leave it for the moment.

I would be much surprised if you could present anything from the OT with sufficient proof to link it with Jesus. I would not go with any sentimental wishful beliefs. Rather proper real meanings descriptive will be needed. So you are welcome to teach us the proofs about Jesus from the OT. Welcome. Get your friends together for that. No harm. I am all ears.**

You just admited that you did not look at that link. Do you know how I know that? Because that it EXACTLY what that link does.

You have no interest in discussion. All you want to do is to show us poor Christians that Paul is in Hell, Mary was not a virgin, Jesus is a lier, and God is the greatest deceiver in the universe.

No thank you, I am not buying it.

 

[ralphinal]

The truth is: Even if they would accept the bible as true, that would not make their Quran also true! On the contrary, their acceptance if they do of the OT would only confirm that their Quran is pure fiction, a story of make-believe. 5:21 of their Quran is proof of that.

Correct, and I never said it was. The fact is, though, that if the Bible is wrong about the Crucifixion, the one key event in all four, then it is wrong in total. If the NT cannot be trusted, why should I accept that there ever was a Jesus? If there never was a Jesus, the Qur’an is mythology as well.

The fact that stories in the Qur’an contradict the Bible is particularly damning to their position

 

[josie_L]

Expert with quotation marks, like this “expert”!

Yes “expert”, sorry for the confusion.

 

[adrift]

Hi

I think it is a mistake of our Christian friends to make Jesus a god; like our Hindu friends have made Krishna a god, in my opinion.

It is a mistake for you not to listen to what Jesus said about Himself. Christians didn’t make Jesus a god. He is God.

But for Paul/s ; Jesus followers would have never taken Jesus to be a god, in my opinion. Matthew, Marks and Luke did not mention that Word has become flesh.

You are mistaken. Matthew, Mark and Luke all contain the truth that Jesus is God.

You might have spoken many words in your life. Did you ever see that any of your Word has become flesh? Your Word would have even never smelt like flesh. It is your tongue and lips and your throat made of flesh that help one to make words, and of course the teeth made of bones, that helps to make the words. The reverse phenomenon never happens, in my opinion.

I explained the meaning to you in post 32. I don’t believe you have much background in Jewish theology that is why you make such an absurd comments.

It is just a mistake of John, or those who wrote for John that they thought otherwise, in my opinion.

Your opinion is based on ignorance.

Jesus never thought like this, in my opinion.

Your opinion is based on erroneous information

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

This is an opinion based on one false idea that Paul wrote the entire New Testament. It goes against the truth.

 

[Jerry_Marino]

Jesus is Lord

 

[Benadam]

I would ask Paarsurrey what Jesus meant by saying, and I am paraphrasing;

Everything the Father has He gives to the Son.

John ( the Baptist) is greatest man born of woman.

I have power to lay my life down I have power to raise it up again.

Father glorify your son with the glory given Him in the beginning.

Before Abraham ever was I am.

Only the Father knows the Son and only the Son knows the Father. (God knowing God)

If you have seen me you have seen the Father ( God knowing God)

These are things Jesus said that no other prophet ever said. Why? Because they are truth’s about Jesus that require that He be more thn a prophet.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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