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luciasclay
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A question for the Catholics here, I know the protestants will never see it this way.
I have been reading into the history of the Jewish liturgy for a while. One thing that I have become fascinated with is how they, at least according to Ismar Elbogen, viewed the scroll of the Torah, which was housed at the front of the synagogue in the cabinet called the ark, as the presence of God. God was present in the tabernacle because his Word was present among them.
It is my understanding that in the Church the position of the ark in the synagogue was replaced by the altar and the host.
Now when I read John 1 I see it from a different view, its like I can see John standing right there in the synagogue saying this, to those who understood the Jewish liturgy and would take his views in a certain way.
In further pondering this it occurred to me, based on my handy dandy protestant study notes in my oxford RSV that the phrase dwelt among us is literally “tabernacled” among us. What I ponder here then is the idea that in the liturgy of the Church, as I understand it, stores the host, the unconsumed host, in something literally called the tabernacle.
Is it possible that there was a container of host there, called the tabernacle, when John would speak in this manner as he did in his written gospel ? Is it possible that this really is the most amazing and awe inspiring demonstration of continuity and fulfillment between the synagogue and church liturgies ?
So I guess my questions are :
I have been reading into the history of the Jewish liturgy for a while. One thing that I have become fascinated with is how they, at least according to Ismar Elbogen, viewed the scroll of the Torah, which was housed at the front of the synagogue in the cabinet called the ark, as the presence of God. God was present in the tabernacle because his Word was present among them.
It is my understanding that in the Church the position of the ark in the synagogue was replaced by the altar and the host.
Now when I read John 1 I see it from a different view, its like I can see John standing right there in the synagogue saying this, to those who understood the Jewish liturgy and would take his views in a certain way.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Certainly I see that to the Jews hearing John teach the idea that the Word became flesh being heard in a synagogue and with the eucharist likewise being celebrated in the synagogue would be getting a much fuller meaning to John 1 than I ever did.John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.
In further pondering this it occurred to me, based on my handy dandy protestant study notes in my oxford RSV that the phrase dwelt among us is literally “tabernacled” among us. What I ponder here then is the idea that in the liturgy of the Church, as I understand it, stores the host, the unconsumed host, in something literally called the tabernacle.
Is it possible that there was a container of host there, called the tabernacle, when John would speak in this manner as he did in his written gospel ? Is it possible that this really is the most amazing and awe inspiring demonstration of continuity and fulfillment between the synagogue and church liturgies ?
So I guess my questions are :
- How far back in time does the tradition of use of the term tabernacle to describe the container holding the unconsumed host go, and is it possible that this term is of apostolic origin?
- Am I seeing things that don’t really exist as far as parallels between the Jewish liturgies and the Christian liturgies or is this a parallel that does exist and who has written about it historically that I can read ? I would be particularly interested in early sources of this idea but will take any sources.