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TheIrishman
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Despite it coming from the LDS church. Is the concept of the Word of Wisdom actually a good thing?
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
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CarolNoel
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For those of us not familiar with the Word of Wisdom, could you give us a little idea about it??
Thanks…
Thanks…
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TheIrishman
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batman1973
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It’s not a bad thing. When you think about it, it’s good common sense to keep one’s health in check. The Utah Mormon church does hold a stricter interpretation of the WoW than the Community of Christ and it’s fundamental RLDS splinter groups.( e.g. in the Remnant LDS Church we could and did drink coffee, and some use real wine “of your own make” for communion)
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gazelam
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It’s the Lord’s law of health as revealed to Joseph Smith in these the latter days. It can be found at lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89?lang=eng. It only takes a couple of minutes to read. It’s written in 19th century vernacular. The term “hot drinks” is understood by Latter-day Saint to refer to coffee and tea. It contains some do’s and dont’s. Originally the entire revelation was a recommendation. Several decades later the dont’s were converted from recommendations to commandments. (How that happened is worthy of an entirely separate thread.) The do’s remain as recommendations. As it was revealed in the 19th century there are no references to more recent developments, such as, hard drugs. However, use of hard drugs are currently considered part of the dont’s. I hope this helps.
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kimg901
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1–9, The use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks is proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
So Jesus and His Apostles and all those people of His time where wrong for drinking wine?
So Jesus and His Apostles and all those people of His time where wrong for drinking wine?
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LegoGE1947
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In many places of the world wine and like drinks are the only beverages fit to drink. In these places water is a best scarce and often impure so as to cause disease. In the US it is a different thing. We have so many choices of pure water and other beverages wine is not really as necessary as other places in the world. I’m not going to say they were wrong to drink wine, in fact they are welcome to MY share any day of the week.
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zaffiroborant
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What do you mean " the concept of the Word of Wisdom" , that the idea that a church should publish lists of healthy living points and require members to follow them or that the WoW is a correct list of healthy living?
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LivingWaters7
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I see nothing wrong with not drinking alcohol, tea, coffee, not smoking and other drugs, and eating more fruits and vegetables. I think the health codes of many religions, whatever they are, include good points, and the LDS faith certainly doesn’t have a corner on healthy living.
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Marie5890
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Agreed.
And considering how it’s VERY common in our culture for young people (very young people) to drink heavily and party in the extreme, and science has shown that the last part of the human brain to develop is the area where executive decision are made around the age of 25, refraining from engaging in the booze and drugs is a very good thing.
I have never ever ever regretted living the WoW. It was and has been a great blessing in my life. And I am grateful it has been part of my journey, spiritually, and physically.
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zaffiroborant
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There are many studies showing benefits from tea and coffee consumption. Interestingly there was a study that very hot drinks could be a problem but that’s not what the WoW is talking about. Alcohol can be problematic, while there have been studies showing that light to moderate consumers of alcohol live longer than those who drink no alcohol the potential for over use and abuse are nothing to sneeze at.
Tobacco is a no brainer and people have been speaking out against it since the habit was first introduced, LDS are not and never were unique in abstaining and speaking against tobacco.
Listing eating more fruits and vegetables as part of the WoW doesn’t really seem accurate though.
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andrewstx
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I stayed in the house of a Mormon family while going to a single adults conference in Ft. a Worth and woke up the next morning to the smell of coffee in the maker and the stench of cigarette smoke filling the house. Sometimes Mormons are not too faithful to the WOW.
I read somewhere that Emma got tired of cleaning up the tobacco spit, emptying cuspidors and she demanded the WOW.
I see no point with teetollaling and since leaving Mormonism I drink occasionally in reason. Emma does not have to clean up for me after all.
I read somewhere that Emma got tired of cleaning up the tobacco spit, emptying cuspidors and she demanded the WOW.
I see no point with teetollaling and since leaving Mormonism I drink occasionally in reason. Emma does not have to clean up for me after all.
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LivingWaters7
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Completely agreed. I have definitely enjoyed following the WoW, and being consistently around people that follow it as well, especially being at the age where people seem to be going crazy with the alcohol and smoking. I don’t miss any of the things I’ve given up (alcohol used to be tough), and I don’t see myself going back to them, no matter where I end up.
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TexanKnight
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The word of wisdom is an odd thing. It says “hot drinks” but someone decided that meant coffee and tea…but not soda…which has caffiene, or fraps…etc.
It was a ruile violated by LDS “prophets”" themselves. JS sold alcohol. BY imbibed.
The W of W was no revelation, but common sense that many people followed.
It was a ruile violated by LDS “prophets”" themselves. JS sold alcohol. BY imbibed.
The W of W was no revelation, but common sense that many people followed.
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Marie5890
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Oh we all know that Mormonism clearly doesnt have the corner market on members who are lukewarm.I stayed in the house of a Mormon family while going to a single adults conference in Ft. a Worth and woke up the next morning to the smell of coffee in the maker and the stench of cigarette smoke filling the house. Sometimes Mormons are not too faithful to the WOW.
I read somewhere that Emma got tired of cleaning up the tobacco spit, emptying cuspidors and she demanded the WOW.
I see no point with teetollaling and since leaving Mormonism I drink occasionally in reason. Emma does not have to clean up for me after all.
Luke warm Catholics (ie the so-called "C&E Catholics) litter the planet.
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TheIrishman
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that the WoW is a correct list of healthy living
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TheIrishman
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do you find anything wrong WITH drinking any of those things?
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LivingWaters7
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Certainly not. If someone desires to drink those things, they are entitled to. I merely choose not to (as do many others outside of the LDS faith, who don’t need a religion to tell them what they can and can’t drink or eat). There’s nothing inherently wrong or sinful with them.
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RebeccaJ
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I haven’t met a LDS member yet who follows the part that says to eat meat sparingly. That’s the part I follow the best. The rest, meh, I like a glass of wine and a cup of coffee. All things in moderation. Defining these things as required to enter the Kingdom of God is nonsense. Jesus not only drank wine, but references it to Himself, as well as the miracle of turning water to wine. LDS and other prohibitionists try to explain this away, but it’s silliness IMNHO.
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zaffiroborant
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Then no I don’t think it’s a correct list of healthy living. While it hit the mark on tobacco it left out so much that is important to healthy living, boil your water would still be good advice in some parts of the world today. It also includes proscriptions on substances that are not bad for you health wise and may even be good for you as many studies on tea and coffee indicate.
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