Words of Consecration

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In the Novus Ordo, the words of Consecration are “for all” while in the Tridintine they are “for many”. My Bible is translated as “for many”. Why the change and can the Church change Jesus’ words of Consecration and still call it valid?
 
So, it is really a situation of a difficult phrase to translate? Meaning that either way it is translated, “all” or “many”, it still means the same thing and although the English seperates it the Latin really does not? If not, and the more appropriate translation is “many” in that one has to try and be saved, why was it changed in the first place?

Or, am I missing something here? How could both be valid even though the essecially mean different things?
 
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So, it is really a situation of a difficult phrase to translate? Meaning that either way it is translated, “all” or “many”, it still means the same thing and although the English seperates it the Latin really does not? If not, and the more appropriate translation is “many” in that one has to try and be saved, why was it changed in the first place?

Or, am I missing something here? How could both be valid even though the essecially mean different things?
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I do not think I can explain it any more clearly than Cardinal Arinze has done.

Circular letter from Cardinal Francis Arinze to Presidents of Conferences of Bishops, dated October 17, 2006 (Prot. no. 467/05/L)

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Ed_Sorenson said:
In the Novus Ordo, the words of Consecration are “for all” while in the Tridintine they are “for many”. My Bible is translated as “for many”. Why the change and can the Church change Jesus’ words of Consecration and still call it valid?
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Yes, the Church can change the Words. The prayers were composed by the Church, so the Church can change and adapt them as She sees fit.

We don’t know for sure what EXACTLY Jesus said, anyway, as the Bible gives different accounts.

There have been and are valid “Eucharistic prayers” that do not include the “words of institution.”
 
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